2022 Newmar London Aire 4551 - RedBaron Build

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MapNerd

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Yes. After July 16, prices will increase on the build sheet by 2%.
Also during the production run, any costs Newmar deems unusual and extra, will be passed on to you directly.

Example: Newmar budgeted $2500 for lumber. Actual cost was $3750. You will now pay the increase of $1250 + whatever markup newmar decides to pass on . You will have zero input, and zero control of these costs, and within a certain dollar amount ( typically $5k ) you will also be on the hook for the purchase.
Boy, what they can get away with in a hot market. It’s funny, if this was still Mahlon’s Newmar I’d probably be saying good for them, but since it’s Winnebago’s Newmar, my feeling is more “what a sham”.

Not saying it’s fair or right, just calling out my own hypocrisy :ROFLMAO:
 

Neemer

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There were two increases on the ‘21 models. Not insignificant ones either. The difference now is the lack of price protection.
 

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My deal is MSRP - 28.6%. The discounted price includes all dealer fees, except for sales tax.
That is for a straight purchase, no trade considered, and computed based on MSRP from the build sheet vs sales price.
On top of that, I will pay dealer cost for the specials that I order.

This deal has been offered by 2 dealers, and 1 dealer is *very* close to this. There are a few other factors that affect my decision. I will post more on those soon.
 

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My deal is MSRP - 28.6%. The discounted price includes all dealer fees, except for sales tax.
That is for a straight purchase, no trade considered, and computed based on MSRP from the build sheet vs sales price.
On top of that, I will pay dealer cost for the specials that I order.

This deal has been offered by 2 dealers, and 1 dealer is *very* close to this. There are a few other factors that affect my decision. I will post more on those soon.
And your dealer is?……..if you care to share.
 

redbaron

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I am still working a few details before I can announce *the winner*. I have already signed paperwork with a dealer---but the deal is contingent, and until they meet a contingency in 48 hours, I have the option to sign with another....so I am not naming names just yet---but I promise I will :)
 

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I am still working a few details before I can announce *the winner*. I have already signed paperwork with a dealer---but the deal is contingent, and until they meet a contingency in 48 hours, I have the option to sign with another....so I am not naming names just yet---but I promise I will :)
@redbaron ... I know what the contingency is - I bet you are having them throw in a spare DEF head and they are out looking for one.

FLSteve
 

MapNerd

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That would actually be a really good contingency, especially if he’s going on a SP
 

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I am still working a few details before I can announce *the winner*. I have already signed paperwork with a dealer---but the deal is contingent, and until they meet a contingency in 48 hours, I have the option to sign with another....so I am not naming names just yet---but I promise I will :)

Hello Redbaron,

Hope you were able to lock in your deal. Can you share your dealer as I’m in the process of placing an order.

Thanks.

-Jon
 

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2019 they changed to hdmi and arc.
Hey Ronnie,

Just ran into this comment and thought I'd mention something that you've probably already thought of, but just in case...

On a new build, ALL HDMI cables should be either "glued" in place; ie. Newell hot glues the plugs to connected devices. I like the HDMI cable locks because they can be easily unhooked, but obviously much slower to install and lock down...and more money.
These are what I found to be the best:
 

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So, what of your personal upgrade projects will also find their way onto the new RV? auto waste management? Lights? remote connectivity?

Congrats on the new Rig!
 

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My 2019 RedBaron Edition DSDP 4369 is being sold with all of the modifications installed. This is great for the new owner, but means I have to start again from scratch.

Some of the changes for the LA didn't allow for mods to be moved, such as the BMK.

The tank automation system is one that I will be doing, and updating to work with the RVC network that exists on the luxury line. Silverleaf has a way to add the functions to their screens. I will have to decide if I will use this, or replace the functionality with another screen. I really like homeseer, and with all the RVC functionality it makes a lot of sense. Light weight, widely supported, and works with a lot of various hardware including rpi.
 

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My 2019 RedBaron Edition DSDP 4369 is being sold with all of the modifications installed. This is great for the new owner, but means I have to start again from scratch.
I followed your threads when you were doing your pickup and modifications and was very impressed

While doing so, I thought at the time that any used coach that you owned would be a fantastic purchase. I’m very envious of the lucky new owner.

I guess your children will be ready to do their paint check on the new one?

Congratulations on the new purchase!
 

redbaron

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I followed your threads when you were doing your pickup and modifications and was very impressed

While doing so, I thought at the time that any used coach that you owned would be a fantastic purchase. I’m very envious of the lucky new owner.

I guess your children will be ready to do their paint check on the new one?

Congratulations on the new purchase!
Thank you.

Funny you should mention the kids and the paint check. I was just chatting with another member online offering to assist with their PDI. My youngest daughter asked if she could get her own roll of painters tape!

I plan on doing a very detailed write up of my PDI experience with NIRVC. As you know from my prior posts, I have always been a very strong advocate of the Newmar factory delivery. My expectations from NIRVC are going to be that they exceed the factory experience. I know that they are a very capable facility, and have the added bonus of running normal business hours.

Newmar FPU entails a complete inspection prior to my arrival. They claim 30 days, but I believe this is less than 10 man hours unless a problem is found. My 2019 had 3 weeks of issues to deal with once I arrived.

Stay tuned for the upcoming comparison post. My delivery is going to be in December, but I get a chance to help with another delivery in October. I am very excited to see how this turns out.
 

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Just got word today that due to a Generator shortage, my coach is being further delayed and will not be hard scheduled this week as expected. No idea how long the delay will be, but this will affect all Luxury lines that use the 12.5KW onan generator.
 

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I just checked and it looks like the Mountain Aire uses the same generator so I guess I’m in the same boat. Maybe @ARD got the last one. 😀

FLSteve
 

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I know how you feel. My coach was built at the beginning of COVID. I got several calls from Newmar, that started with "I hate to make this cal", indicating another delay. Thank God not indefinite. Hope you get yours soon.
 

FLSteve

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Just got word today that due to a Generator shortage, my coach is being further delayed and will not be hard scheduled this week as expected. No idea how long the delay will be, but this will affect all Luxury lines that use the 12.5KW onan generator.
@redbaron ... did you get the word from your dealer or directly from someone at Newmar?

FLSteve :unsure:
 
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