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Webz

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Joined
Feb 18, 2020
Messages
315
RV Year
2016
RV Make
Newmar
RV Model
Dutch Star
RV Length
43
Chassis
Freightliner
TOW/TOAD
2018 Ram
Fulltimer
Yes
Evey now and then, when there is a large electrical load, the ceiling lights will flicker and the voltage will drop to 10.1 volts on the panel in the front overhead cabinet. Then it bounces back to 12.6 volts. During the low voltage, the inverter switches to inverting. When the load drops, the inverter goes back to float charging.
Every month I check the house batteries, clean up the posts and add distilled water as required.
I'm thinking (which gets me in trouble) there's a continuity problem with the battery cables. I've seen cables corrode under the insulation. Would bad battery cables cause the problem I'm having? Or is it something else.
I'm open to any suggestions. TIA
 
What is causing the load? Is it a motor, a/c or refrigerator? During startup these pull large amounts of current.
 
So this occurs when on shore power and the inverter flips to “inverting” when a large load comes along? And then back to float? That is odd. Why would the Magnum flip from charging to inverting while plugged in?

Am i reading that right?
 
Heavy load is 2 or 3 ACs running, clothes dryer running, AC heat on the Oasis heating water. Maybe dishwasher running also. Then use the microwave.
Plugged in to 50 Amp.
I know that is a large demand on the electrical system.
Just started having problems recently.
Going to replace the batteries and the cables. Been looking for an excuse to go to AGMs anyway. Tired of cleaning batteries and adding water.
 
Ok. This actually makes sense now. What may be happening is the precision circuit load manager is sensing that you are maxing out the 50amp connection and startinfo to shed load….and the Magnum charger is being dropped off to save amps. Then the load drops, it allows the magnum to come back online and resume charging. If this only happens at times of high 120 v load, then I don’t think it’s your batteries or cables.

my 2 cents
 
Interesting to know what the load is as a 50amp circuit is "only" 6000 watts per leg. The loads are separated between L1 and L2. If you exceed the load on one leg it sounds like the Invertor is taking up the shortfall automatically. The voltage drawdown is what I would refer to as normal for an acid battery bank take on a large load. AGM probably won't be much different.
 
Thanks for all the info. Shedding makes sense. But I'm still replacing the batteries and cables. They look bad. Even the four copper tie bars are getting thin from corrosion eating at them. May be some voltage drop due to poor connections between batteries.
Batteries on order. Got 1/4 inch thick copper bars for replacement. Using 4/0 cables to go from the batteries to the coach and 1/0 cables between the batteries.
It will be better not having the off gassing from the lead acid batteries.
Thanks again. I'll let you know how it works out in a few days.
 
Ok, not engineer, but a 50A connection is two/120VAC hot leads at 50A each, for a total of 100 amps, quite a bit more than 6000 watts per leg for total of 12,000. FWIW-That is about half of a normal house incoming load. FWIW2-I had the same experience as OP, but I was plugged into 30A, and although no A/C use, we were using the oasis electric element and heat pumps occasionally. The system seemed to work as advertised.
Yes, fan of AGM's, but just aint going to spend money now, will wait until batteries are 4 years old first. Don't believe it's your batteries anyway, believe you should make sure the park pedestal is really a dedicated 50A plug, and not some hosed together 30A jury-rigged thing. I have seen lots of those for sure. Normally they bring in true 50A circuit, and pull the 30A connection off one side of the hot leads, but in some older parks, what is behind the cover of the box could be anyone's guess. Before you spend money, hook up to known good power and see if issue happens again.

Also , if handy with tools, I personally would make sure all the 120V circuits are tight in the box, I did that couple months ago, none were lose, but i was able to tighten a few which were not as tight as they should be. Their is a torque value for them, amazon sells a good 1/4" drive torque driver which will assist you in checking them. Ensure all power is off, unplugged from shore power, master chassis and house switch are off.
 
Batteries are over 4 years old.
We've been at this same park for over a year, unfortunately.
Got a Progressive Industries EMS at the pedestal and it shows no errors now and no past errors. Haven't had this problem until a couple weeks ago when it started getting above 90° Even if the batteries and cables are not the problem, they are being changed. Tired of the monthly maintenance and the corrosion.
Thank you for the food for thought.
I'll post here the results in a few days. I'm guessing it will take me two days to clean and replace everything on my list.
While there is no power, I'll check the transfer switch to make sure all the lugs are tight.
 
Well, now I know "the rest of the story". Call Lifeline Batteries, Southern, CA. See if he will give you the alpine discount, or a veterans, old age, something kind of discount. When I changed my in the other MH, I took pictures of how they were wired, as they will take out the old ones and put in the new ones, but will NOT wire them up. That may have changed (at factory shop). They have distributor network, and I was very pleased with mine. Other folks make them as well, but cannot say who, as have not researched them. Let us know what you end up with please and how happy you are with whom did it for you, if you don't do it yourself. You can take all the jumper wires/bars and dump them in a baking soda/water solution and that will clean them off the corrosion I think. Then use NO-OX-ID-Special A dielectric grease on all the connection points and any corrosion won't be issue.
 

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