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Ventana 4369

RVF Newbee
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Oct 1, 2022
Messages
1
My wife and I just purchased a 2022 Newmar Ventana and are interested in a tow vehicle.
Like I'm sure most of you, I don't want to trailer it, or put miles on the vehicle while towing. I've been told that you can tow (toad style) a jeep and not put miles on it. They say just put in neutral.
Is this true? And if so, what makes the Jeep the only vehicle that can be towed in this fashion?

Thanks in advance
 

SteveMA

RVF Supporter
Joined
Dec 31, 2021
Messages
22
Location
Cornell, Calif
RV Year
2020
RV Make
Newmar
RV Model
Mountain Aire
RV Length
45
Chassis
FL SL500
Engine
X12
TOW/TOAD
Jeep Grand Cherokee
The primary need is to be able to disconnect the wheels from the transmission. this is done in the transfer case by putting the transfer case in neutral. really requires a 4 wheel-drive jeep with true transfer case. There’s also some other small complications with certain cars that have electric steering - some of the jeeps do (since 2018 I think) had a problem (“death wobble”) however there is a fix for it and it has hopefully been corrected in the 2022 and newer. Lots of good information out there - do your research.

our jeep has been our toad for a long time and 35k mikes without any problems at all (except for the one time I forgot to take the emergency brake off that only lasted a few feet - Lesson learned and reminded me to follow my procedure steps and not get distracted)

The actual towing is absolutely simple and really doesn’t affect anything you’re doing as far as driving other than you cannot back up (ever) without detaching the toad.
 

scottramer

RVF Regular
Joined
Dec 20, 2020
Messages
56
RV Year
2019
RV Make
Newmar
RV Model
London Aire 4543
Chassis
Freightliner
Engine
X15 605 HP
TOW/TOAD
2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Any vehicle that is flat towable does not wrack up miles when being towed.
 

bobnjill410

RVF Regular
Joined
Jun 29, 2020
Messages
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Jeep is not the only vehicle that can be flat towed. There are many different males and models . ( although, jeep is the most popular.). We have towed several different makes and models, including Jeep, Ford, Buick, Chevrolet and GMC. My humble experience is the 2019 GMC Acadia Denali is the easiest thus far. All are pretty much the same deal exterior but in this model, all I have to do is pull the rubber boot around the shifter, push to release a lever, shift to neutral, turn the electric braking system on and we are ready to travel. I will add this , there are many opinions on this subject and none are wrong. What ever is good for you, is the right way to go. Safe travels.
 

Sealyn

RVF Regular
Joined
Sep 15, 2020
Messages
47
RV Year
2017
RV Make
Newmar
RV Model
Dutch Star
RV Length
43
Chassis
Freightliner
There are many vehicles that are flat towable that are not 4 wheel drive. I flat tow a GMC Terrain.
 

Gizmo

RVF VIP
Joined
Nov 19, 2019
Messages
408
Location
Kansas
RV Year
2017
RV Make
Newmar
RV Model
Ventana LE
RV Length
40
TOW/TOAD
2020 Jeep Rubicon
The list of 4 down towing is getting shorter every year. Don't buy a TOAD without researching the owner's manual for the car you are buying. One year might be towable while a newer model may not be so be careful. I had a 2017 Grand Cherokee that had what they call the death wobble and wasn't a fix thill 2021 when Jeep released a wiring harness to activate the steering during towing.
FMCA has a list of 4 down towable but I believe you have to be a member to view it but even if it's on the list still verify with the user manual.
I tow a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and all you have to do is put the transfer case in neutral and the auto trans in park. Since buying the Wranger I found I enjoy going to places like Colorado and doing some easy trail ridiing.
 

Headhunter

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Joined
Jul 18, 2021
Messages
292
Location
Northeast PA
RV Year
2021
RV Make
Tiffin
RV Model
Red 33 AA
RV Length
35 ft
TOW/TOAD
2017 Jeep Sahara
Fulltimer
No
Jeep Wrangler, 4 wheel drive, Sahara. Very easy to tow, and tons of fun.

HH
 

Rich W.

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Joined
Jan 19, 2021
Messages
1,478
Location
Grass Valley Ca
RV Year
2016
RV Make
Newmar
RV Model
Ventana 3427
RV Length
35
Chassis
Freightliner XCR
Engine
6.7 ISB 360/800
TOW/TOAD
2001 Jeep Wrangler, M&G air brake system, Blue Ox bar
Fulltimer
No
I bought a 2001 Wrangler to tow. I wanted a manual transmission, straight six, and coil spring front suspension, so that narrowed it down to 1998 - 2006. Then I shopped for several months looking for a low milage, unmodified example.

For brakes I used M&G since I had air to the back and for lights I just wired a flat-4 set up that plugs into the coach and is wired into the Jeep taillights. So with the key off one click, the wheel doesn't lock, the jeep battery isnt used, and its about a two minute job to hook up and disconnect.

The M&G system is excellent and simple but it has two drawbacks.
1. I had to relocate three emissions related vaccum operated devices.
2. although they say braking is proportional, and it probably is for the most part, the toad brakes will lock up under severe braking where the anti-lock brakes on the coach prevent those brakes from locking.

Its possible that the Jeep brakes just need power (key on) to prevent this, but its also possible to prevent for the most part by anticipating what other drivers might do. But not always. It still stops straight, just leaves some rubber behind.
 

Webz

RVF Supporter
Joined
Feb 18, 2020
Messages
178
RV Year
2016
RV Make
Newmar
RV Model
Dutch Star
RV Length
43
Fulltimer
Yes
We tow a 2018 Ram 4x4 pickup. Leave the transmission in park, put the transfer case in neutral, hook up the tow bar, safety cables, air line for the brakes and the emergency break away cable. We have te M&G braking system and Roadmaster 10K tow bar. Been very happy with it. No miles accumulate while towing.
 

Rustymayes

RVF Regular
Joined
Sep 11, 2022
Messages
62
Location
Vacaville, CA
RV Year
2022
RV Make
Newmar
RV Model
4081
Fulltimer
No
I am thinking of towing my 2018 GMC Canyon Denali 4WD. I have not looked that the owner manual yet regarding flat towing. Does anyone on here flat tow a Canyon or Colorado? I don't want to buy a fourth vehicle just to use as a toad but I am considering selling the Canyon and buying a Jeep Gladiator if the Gladiator would tow better.
 

Webz

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Joined
Feb 18, 2020
Messages
178
RV Year
2016
RV Make
Newmar
RV Model
Dutch Star
RV Length
43
Fulltimer
Yes
I believe Neal tows a Canyon
 

GTS225

RVF Regular
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Aug 28, 2022
Messages
55
Pardon me for sounding stoopid, but............How does one flat tow a vehicle, and NOT " put miles on it"? Sure, you won't rack up miles on the odometer, but you're still putting miles on it in the form of tire wear, suspension cycling, road vibration, etc., etc.
Let's be honest with ourselves, here. The only true way to tow a vehicle and not put miles on it is to trailer it. Even then, there's going to be some suspension cycling and road vibration.
And for the record, I pull a 5er, so don't have a toad.

Roger
 

Webz

RVF Supporter
Joined
Feb 18, 2020
Messages
178
RV Year
2016
RV Make
Newmar
RV Model
Dutch Star
RV Length
43
Fulltimer
Yes
To clarify, miles do not show up on the odometer. Yes the tires wear as well as the shocks, wheel bearings and the brake pads since they are applied when you apply the coach brakes.
 

NWIP

RVF Supporter
Joined
Nov 4, 2019
Messages
1,526
Location
No Where In Particular
RV Year
2020
RV Make
Newmar
RV Model
Dutch Star 4369
RV Length
43’ 9”
Chassis
Spartan K2
Engine
Cummins ISL9
TOW/TOAD
2016 Colorado
Fulltimer
Yes
I have a 2016 Colorado and have about 65000 miles towing it, not registered on the odometer. It has been a good toad. I am looking to upgrade to full size p/u once prices stabilize. 😢
 

LMHS

RVF Regular
Joined
Oct 4, 2022
Messages
52
I flat tow a 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Orvis Edition 4WD. I'm the 2nd owner and I bought it in 1998 because I could flat tow it and I needed to be able to get out of the rural road I lived on in the winter. It's beat up, doesn't look all that great because the idiots in parking lots think it's okay to hit it and leave (three times by co-workers and twice by cops) but it still runs and it doesn't add miles to the odometer while flat towing. I also don't worry if a rock causes a ding. You might want to consider towing an older vehicle as opposed to a shiny new one. A towed gets a lot of abuse. I've replaced the windshield once (not due to flat towing) and the headlights once (got hit in an RV park by a trailer as it was leaving.... no they didn't stop either even though I was chasing them down... worthless cowards).

Also since my jeep is weird about it's electrical, I have a hitchhaul cargo carrier on the back. I mounted trailer lights to the carrier and string a long cable over the roof to plug into the lights of whatever is pulling my jeep. I do have to replace the trailer lights every so often due to the idiots who "bump" into the cargo carrier. It's also a good place to put my empty 4wheeled tank when traveling.
 
Joined
Nov 16, 2019
Messages
294
Location
Spicewood, TX
RV Year
2017
RV Make
Newmar
RV Model
Ventana 4369
RV Length
43
Chassis
Freightliner
Engine
Cummins
TOW/TOAD
2018 GMC Canyon
I flat tow a 2018 GMC Canyon without any issues. I've owned and towed several different Jeeps and prefer the better ride and quietness of my Canyon.
 

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