I too lean heavily on RVTW for planning. They released a product 1-2 years ago called RV life which includes RV GPS Routing. I like the integration aspects of this which also includes campground reviews. Having one app accessible to the iPhone is way better than having to plan on RVTW and then re-enter on the Garmin. I think the killer feature is advance warning and being able to know what’s ahead with options so you can evaluate is what I look for. I don’t want to know 5 sec before. My issue with rv life is I just don’t know enough about it “under the covers“ to trust it. Inevitably if I had both (Garmin and RV Life) running at the same time and they gave different directions, which one do I choose? The leader in GPS used in airplanes and on boats or a third party app? Once you have been in a near crisis situation, it’s all about trust and dependability going forward. I don’t trust my Garmin 100% either and visually verify everything which takes a lot of time In addition to the data reentry each day From RVTW to Garmin.use RVTripWizard...am happy with its features and capabilities. What additional features am I missing?
To be clear, I would be using the same data under the hood as Garmin, except my update integration would be faster and automatic with updates happening automagically every few weeks as opposed to months. No data downloads or update installs. You wouldn’t even need to update the app.Inevitably if I had both (Garmin and RV Life) running at the same time and they gave different directions, which one do I choose? The leader in GPS used in airplanes and on boats or a third party app?
Weather is a good idea and can be done. I’ve done that on other apps before.All the obvious navigation things as well as vehicle specifications for over and under bridges. An additional game changer to put you above the others might be to have a weather conditions along the route option. Have the option of modifying the date and time to see timing's impact? Just dreaming
additional edit: I use basecamp to plan all my routes, then dump them into the Garmin. A computer app to do the same instead of trying to do all that on the tiny screen of a crapple phone?
Finding all of the campgrounds is almost certainly the hardest part. There is no single source of truth other than Google and they will sue my face off if I scrape their data. I could use their API but it’s expensive. I have about 600 campgrounds loaded across the US, Canada and Mexico so far but I know there are many others I don’t know of. I am thinking that if there is a campground you know of which the app doesn’t, I will have a way for you to add it. Initially, only the person who reported the campground will see it but once I have verified it, it will be displayed to everyone. You’ll have to have some basic information about the campground in order to report it though. A name, Address or coordinates, and website or phone number. Other attributes will be available but those are the bare minimum.@MapNerd , my main complaint with RVTW is the incomplete display of campgrounds. Maybe I'm missing a setting/parameter...even when I know there is a campground near my desired destination, sometimes it doesn't show up unless I manually enter it by name. Regarding GPS, I start with RVTW, then double check other sources during the planning phase. Once on the road, I use the coach RMcN and double check (if I remember) with RVTW, Google + others.
No idea where RV Parky gets their data and I doubt they would share with me if I told them I was considering building a competing app..Where does RV Parky get their data? Integration with a DB like that would seem good to me. Weather not not so important. Waze yes. A flexible import feature for trip planning would be key (I use excel).
This crossed my mind but it would not be something I’d consider for a minimal viable product. Perhaps in a future release.- Could an integration with vehicle data be of value? Take the bluefire data for example and show user selectable real time data, or better yet summarize the data in a way with the GPS data to do something interesting?
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Not at all and if something I have on my idea list. Part of me feels to some extent however, that in these times not too many people would want to share their location, even securely with their friends. People just don’t trust technology with that kind of stuff these days and for good reason (thanks Tech Bros!). So its lower on my list but it is a relatively easy thing to do if folks want it. I am also considering a chat feature. I think that might get used more.- Would a find friends feature be crazy? You can automate updates to friends and family with your location or a daily trip summary.
Hard without getting into the hardware game myself and developing my own dash cam. Supporting a third-party product is always difficult but dashcams would be particularly difficult because I dont believe there is a universal standard that they would all provide support for in terms of how to connect, how videos, and other things are accessed, etc.- Integration with a dash camera to provide a trip summary including photos?
I would do the something similar to AllStays in terms of linking to campground websites. I probably wouldn’t link out to Waze, Google, Apple Maps or any of the others and that would undermine the business model as well as there is no way I could make those apps follow a route I wanted it to. Typically, you give them a start and endpoint and they take it from there. No way to give them height, weight, length, width restrictions or a list of no-go spots.I currently use AllStays app for finding campgrounds. With all its filtering capability, it works great for me. It allows me to filter based whether the campground accepts Big Rigs, but it doesn't filter based on vehicle length. A 40' DP is considered a Big Rig, so I still need to see if the campground has any size restrictions listed. It has links to open Google Maps, and also a browser to the CG's reservation page.
The #1 feature that I am missing is a map showing me bridge / road weight limits. I've posted a few times on my trials in getting to my destination without crossing any bridges that I'm overweight for (48K# plus 5K# toad).
For the campground that I'm currently staying at in NC, I followed the directions that the State Park posted on their website. It was great until I was a mile or two away and got to the bridge which had a weight restriction. My RV navs (Garmin & Rand McNally) wanted to route me a different way, but I figured that the park knows bests. Not! The nav systems don't tell me that I cannot go a particular way until I'm nearly there. It doesn't tell me that it routed me a particular way due to a weight limit.
If I could have looked at a map and know that there's a weight restriction, I could have chosen a different route.
If I knew where to get this data, I would have checked it. The nav systems obviously know this data, but there is no way for me to access it.
When I use the “Send to Google” link in AllStays, it’s typically not to get directions, but to see a Google satellite view of the place so I can check out the CG. I want to know if the CG is wooded or an open field: whether it’s next to a body of water: nearby a city: etc.I probably wouldn’t link out to Waze, Google, Apple Maps or any of the others and that would undermine the business model as well as there is no way I could make those apps follow a route I wanted it to. Typically, you give them a start and endpoint and they take it from there. No way to give them height, weight, length, width restrictions or a list of no-go spots.
For my current CG, it turns out that the Garmin and RN navigation systems had good directions. But of course, the CG had warnings in the email and on the website warning against following GPS directions. Instead they provided directions to get there. As it turns out the directions they provided included a bridge with weight restrictions (they didn’t mention this). Had I known there were weight restrictions on that route I would have taken the Garmin route instead. It seems that if you follow navigation systems directions sometimes you are damned if you do or damned if you don’t. If I had an app or website to see bridge weight limits I would do my homework ahead of time. Just don’t know where to get the data.I’m confused by your third statement. So, are you getting your getting your route from your Garmin/Rand McNally nav unit and its sending you down bad routes, or are you getting the route elsewhere, exporting it to a file, then importing it to your Garmin and following it there?
I will have a satellite view available for all users so you’d be able to do that within the app directly.When I use the “Send to Google” link in AllStays, it’s typically not to get directions, but to see a Google satellite view of the place so I can check out the CG. I want to know if the CG is wooded or an open field: whether it’s next to a body of water: nearby a city: etc.
Sometimes that is true. It is an almost impossible ask for any information system to keep up with ground truth. The only reason Google can do it is because they literally spend billions on it and have hundreds of thousands of users contributing data and correcting local maps for them.It seems that if you follow navigation systems directions sometimes you are damned if you do or damned if you don’t. If I had an app or website to see bridge weight limits I would do my homework ahead of time. Just don’t know where to get the data.
Having a symbol in the map for bridges and low clearances which you can tap to see information about is an easy thing to do so I will add that to my list.
Nope. When I looked into what it would take to deliver CarPlay and AndroidAuto support, I found it would be far too much work for me to do on my own.MapNerd, did you develop an "app" for RV navigation? I have often thought of doing same. Might at some point.