First furniture peeling, now it's fogged windows (RV quality)

[Neal]

Another window showing fogging today, courtesy of running the heat pump for heat. Really disappointed in the quality of components used by a higher end coach manufacturer such as Newmar. I can't imagine what those giant non-opening windows are going to cost to replace when they start fogging.

 

[Richpatty]

Yea. The emergency window was fogging on ours…. But that got replaced last fall as it was falling out. I also notice the upper pane of the half bath is also fogged…but dont see that one much as the shade is almost always closed.

 

[Neal]

I already paid to replace the one aft of the entry door. They didn't have the dinette window in stock or I would have done that one as well. Now the one behind the sofa is fogged. I'm guessing all will have to be replaced.

 

[purring along]

Knock on wood no problem with windows yet but having the lousy seats recovered in May. Good luck.

 

[Richpatty]

I guess it also matters how many miles your rv has bounced down the road…. We are only at 30k miles…. Neal, I know you have much more than that…

 

[Neal]

I'm at 65K and maybe it's related, but I think age is a factor? Dunno...they do take a beating though, I'm surprised the driver's side window hasn't shattered.

 

[stang37]

I had three more repaired while at the Tampa RV show. Left there headed home and spent two cold nights on the way. Snowed on in Flordia and had to stop on the MS. gulf coast for a night. 7" of snow, low 20s Oasis running keeping the coach nice and warm. NO foggy windows, but I did develop an OASIS problem. Faulting on air compressor. On this fault the burner will not work but luckily the electrical AC I & AC II still work. Very happy with the window repairs, now on to fixing the OASIS.

 

[Boat Bum]

I escaped the peeling furniture but not the fogged windows. The big one on the rear is only visible in certain sunlight the way it hits, I only noticed it recently under the right conditions; I was bummed.

 

[J&JD]

I had three more repaired while at the Tampa RV show. Left there headed home and spent two cold nights on the way. Snowed on in Flordia and had to stop on the MS. gulf coast for a night. 7" of snow, low 20s Oasis running keeping the coach nice and warm. NO foggy windows, but I did develop an OASIS problem. Faulting on air compressor. On this fault the burner will not work but luckily the electrical AC I & AC II still work. Very happy with the window repairs, now on to fixing the OASIS.

Always something with these darn contraptions. Great hobby, I think.

 

[CaptainGizmo]

Another window showing fogging today, courtesy of running the heat pump for heat. Really disappointed in the quality of components used by a higher end coach manufacturer such as Newmar. I can't imagine what those giant non-opening windows are going to cost to replace when they start fogging.

Neal...on an 8 year old coach? Welllll, just to apply a little painkiller, I'm here to tell you...you're not alone. In fact, DOZENS of Newell coaches, even as young as 5 years old have suffered fogging!! I've had a couple, starting a couple years ago...so that'd be 7 years old.

Newell is just as frustrated, being tied to Hehr, who makes absolute crap and doesn't give any warranty worth a bean!

Everyone I know, has to use AutoBoss because he'll provide a 5 year warranty (used to be 10), whereas Newell can't give more than the 90 day joke of warranty from Hehr...now LIPPERT!!

FAST forward to today, and I'm looking at pretty much my whole coach needing windows; they're $500 each currently.

 

[Buster]

Count me in the foggy window camp. I probably have at least 5 that require attention.

Need new house batteries first though, so will be another year at least before the windows are addressed.

 

[lostinfla]

Peeling furniture, fogged windows, inverter went south, leak in hydraulic slide cylinder, Active Air issue, yup, these things will drive you crazy. A tip, if you are going to replace a window, check with Lippert. They bought Hehr and can usually manufacture an exact replacement window for much less than Newmar will charge. If you give them the numbers on the inside trim ring (has to be removed to see) they can make a duplicate and ship it. I had them do the door window for me and it turned out great.

 

[Neal]

It's not critical and I may try one of those repair companies first when the opportunity presents itself. It's just odd that right around the 7 year point they all start fogging. I realize companies like Newmar are really just parts assemblers but it's up to them to hold their suppliers to higher standards IMHO. Well, they are also responsible as I remind myself of the Flexsteel saga that if they are going to sell a high end product then their components need to fall inline with that as well.

 

[Wemustrv]

While I do not own a Newmar and my rig is older at 2007 I have replaced two of my side windows, the one by the dinette and the drivers side window. They were manufactured by Hehr. Glass shop was able to order them direct. IT took 6 weeks to arrive which was acceptable being that the age of the rig. Now I have the small windows on the ends of the big slide fogging. I have 87K miles on my rig. I may try to fix the side windows myself realizing that If I separate the glass there will no longer be the vacuum seal between the panes.

 

[PdMeehan]

In April of 2023 I had replaced four windows with the Darren Thomas' "Never Fog RV Glass." They are still looking fine. The following were replaced: Entry Door - $606, Co-Pilot $509, Pilot Front - $551 and Pilot header above power window - $465. Darren Thomas Glass is located in Sebring Florida but attends many rallies. Very pleased with their product and service.

 

[Boat Bum]

@PdMeehan When you say replaced are you talking just the windowpane or the complete frame? Thanks

 

[lostinfla]

In April of 2023 I had replaced four windows with the Darren Thomas' "Never Fog RV Glass." They are still looking fine. The following were replaced: Entry Door - $606, Co-Pilot $509, Pilot Front - $551 and Pilot header above power window - $465. Darren Thomas Glass is located in Sebring Florida but attends many rallies. Very pleased with their product and service.

I was under the impression they didn't do frameless windows.

 

[Neal]

While I do not own a Newmar and my rig is older at 2007 I have replaced two of my side windows, the one by the dinette and the drivers side window. They were manufactured by Hehr. Glass shop was able to order them direct. IT took 6 weeks to arrive which was acceptable being that the age of the rig. Now I have the small windows on the ends of the big slide fogging. I have 87K miles on my rig. I may try to fix the side windows myself realizing that If I separate the glass there will no longer be the vacuum seal between the panes.

Mine are Hehr as well.

 

[PdMeehan]

@PdMeehan When you say replaced are you talking just the windowpane or the complete frame? Thanks

The frame was removed, template drawn, glass cut and replaced.

 

[PdMeehan]

I was under the impression they didn't do frameless windows.

@lostinfla you are probably right. All these windows had frames.