Winnebago Forza vs. Tiffin Allegro Red

[bpaikman]

Suggest that you stay with either the Tiffin, or Newmar! You will not regret it.
Driving, handling, & manipulating a 34'-36' coach is very, very close. If you go with a 36' coach, in 12 months, you will be happy you did!
The Ventana 3436 would be a great model to fulfill yours, & your husbands desires!
Whatever you choose, Good Luck!

Allan

I agree, Tiffin or Newmar, but the cheaper Newmars like ours - I think they cut corners in design to make it affordable.
For example, I want to upgrade the door lock. So far, we've been unable to find anything to fit our door, due to some unique details in its configuration.
It's a very tightly designed coach, it hasn't been easy to do any modifications. I wanted to replace the flooring - got an estimate of $30,000. For real. Because they said they'd have to essentially remove all 3 slides, snd since one of them is a full-wall slide, not, a small job.
I decided to live with the dark flooring, lol. An area rug does wonders.

 

[bpaikman]

Oh, and BTW, Our Newmar is 2014 - we couldn't afford anything newer than 7 years old. There are pluses and minuses to older models, I prefer lower mileage, bit not TOO low, We apparently escaped the peeling leather problem in newer models - our sofa, whatever it is, is in pristine condition.

 

[bpaikman]

Oh, and our old 36.5' Winnebago had a 350 Caterpillar and weighed roughly 28K....
Our 'new' Newmar has a 340 Cummins and weighs roughly 31K.
We'd taken both over many Colorado mountain passes, towing the same 4000-lb toad. No issues. I can't tell any difference. No, we don't pass many vehicles (just the gassers lol), but it hasn't been difficult to get up the mountains. The 18-wheelers pass us easily, but they probably have a lot of hp.

 

[bpaikman]

Suggest that you stay with either the Tiffin, or Newmar! You will not regret it.
Driving, handling, & manipulating a 34'-36' coach is very, very close. If you go with a 36' coach, in 12 months, you will be happy you did!
The Ventana 3436 would be a great model to fulfill yours, & your husbands desires!
Whatever you choose, Good Luck!

Allan

I agree - we've had 36.5 and 35. No difference in handling.

 

[bpaikman]

BTW, on YouTube, Look up "Today is Someday" with Stacey and (can't think of his name - ex-Navy guy, very hands-on in repairs) .... they have a 2016 or 2017 Allegro 33AA for years. Full-timers.

 

[AmyB]

BTW, on YouTube, Look up "Today is Someday" with Stacey and (can't think of his name - ex-Navy guy, very hands-on in repairs) .... they have a 2016 or 2017 Allegro 33AA for years. Full-timers.

We've actually watched them regularly over the past few years, which is how I first heard about Tiffin. Thanks for the tip though!

 

[AmyB]

HH,
Don't think I replied directly to you in my post where I answered about service centers in our area. Curious to get your input on the TV location at the end of the sofa/seating area. As I mentioned in my post, my husband says he doesn't like turning sideways to watch and I told him he can just pull the recliner out that is next to the couch and face the TV. I don't think it's an issue but it's one of the floorplan disagreements we have, so would be interested in getting input from other 33AA owners. We watch a lot of Netflix/Prime series together but I understand it may not matter for those who don't watch much TV, but wondering if you have an opinion on it either way. Thanks!

 

[Headhunter]

HH,
Don't think I replied directly to you in my post where I answered about service centers in our area. Curious to get your input on the TV location at the end of the sofa/seating area. As I mentioned in my post, my husband says he doesn't like turning sideways to watch and I told him he can just pull the recliner out that is next to the couch and face the TV. I don't think it's an issue but it's one of the floorplan disagreements we have, so would be interested in getting input from other 33AA owners. We watch a lot of Netflix/Prime series together but I understand it may not matter for those who don't watch much TV, but wondering if you have an opinion on it either way. Thanks!

Hi Amy:

I also don't like turning my head to watch TV, but I watch the front TV over the front seats all the time when sitting at the table or even laying on the couch.

You see our other TV in the living area is a Teleavator TV that pops up from the counter where the table is. You are facing directly across from it on the couch and the recliner. We also have another TV in the bedroom and outside over the mid bay. I think the pop up was an option that started in 2020. Another new option that is really great is the heated floors. We camped is some 30 degree weather, just turn the floor heat to number 1 to 5 settings and its outstanding. Also the new Digital dash is great.

You see that brings me to the newer the coach the more technology advanced it is. People say it is only three years old, but sometimes you miss a lot of advancements. I also have 3 solar panels on the roof, Wifi extender, Spyder Digital Controls, and more. Tiffin usually gives you a lot of options that are standard where you have to pay for them with other coaches.

Everybody is usually partial to the coach they own. A good read is Motorhome Comaparison Guide by Randall Eaton.

I hope this helps, if I can answer any more questions don't hesitate to ask.

HH

 

[AmyB]

Hi Amy:

I also don't like turning my head to watch TV, but I watch the front TV over the front seats all the time when sitting at the table or even laying on the couch.

You see our other TV in the living area is a Teleavator TV that pops up from the counter where the table is. You are facing directly across from it on the couch and the recliner. We also have another TV in the bedroom and outside over the mid bay. I think the pop up was an option that started in 2020. Another new option that is really great is the heated floors. We camped is some 30 degree weather, just turn the floor heat to number 1 to 5 settings and its outstanding. Also the new Digital dash is great.

You see that brings me to the newer the coach the more technology advanced it is. People say it is only three years old, but sometimes you miss a lot of advancements. I also have 3 solar panels on the roof, Wifi extender, Spyder Digital Controls, and more. Tiffin usually gives you a lot of options that are standard where you have to pay for them with other coaches.

Everybody is usually partial to the coach they own. A good read is Motorhome Comaparison Guide by Randall Eaton.

I hope this helps, if I can answer any more questions don't hesitate to ask.

HH

Thanks HH. Appreciate the info. Didn't realize the newer Tiffins had a pop up TV behind the dinette or the heated floors. Unfortunately, our budget prohibits us from getting in one of the new ones and it'd likely be a 2018 or maybe 2019 if we can find a good deal. I still think Tiffin's are reliable enough that one that is 4 or 5 years old should still be a safe bet but we are going to keep researching and looking. Not planning to buy until sometime this spring/summer so maybe prices will continue to go down as well