Human waste bill?

[kangarooelaine]

Not legal to dump black or gray in the woods. Is legal to empty a dish pan however, just not water that has been in the gray tank.

That's kind of my point. It's already illegal. So what would this bill do?
The people pooping in the forest are tent campers. The rest are already doing illegal things so how is another law and permit situation going to make it better?

 

[AbdRahim]

In the 70's they closed the "nut houses" to save money. The nuts were in the house and senate.

Many still are.

 

[MapNerd]

Odd to target something like that at RVs since tent camping/ car campers are even more likely to poop in the woods.

Fecal matter on its own is a nuisance but not much of a health hazard because for the most part it is stationary and you usually don’t find it out in the open where it can cause widespread contamination. That is to say, yes tent homeless go #2 but usually go into the brush, woods, or other areas that provide concealment for them to do their business. As a result, the fecal matter lands in a single place, most often in dirt or grass where other organisms immediately get to work in breaking it down and it remains there by and large. The contamination is localized. This is not the same as raw sewage. It’s human waste and there is a difference.

Sewage = human waste +fluid, typically water and or urine. This is what really takes the smell from 3 to 20 and worse, makes the bacteria, pathogens and other harmful contaminants within transient. RVs typically park on pavement. And so dumping their tanks on pavement means there is a greater public health hazard because now not only are those contaminants highly transient, but they are being absorbed into the ground much more slowly since they are on pavement and there are far fewer organisms available on that surface to begin the decomposition process.

that’s why you target RVs - they are the real health hazard when it comes to this. I don’t know about you, but I’ll take a mountain of poo over a river of sewage any day of the week.

JMHO

 

[Kevin D Pem]

Fecal matter on its own is a nuisance but not much of a health hazard because for the most part it is stationary and you usually don’t find it out in the open where it can cause widespread contamination. That is to say, yes tent homeless go #2 but usually go into the brush, woods, or other areas that provide concealment for them to do their business. As a result, the fecal matter lands in a single place, most often in dirt or grass where other organisms immediately get to work in breaking it down and it remains there by and large. The contamination is localized. This is not the same as raw sewage. It’s human waste and there is a difference.

Sewage = human waste +fluid, typically water and or urine. This is what really takes the smell from 3 to 20 and worse, makes the bacteria, pathogens and other harmful contaminants within transient. RVs typically park on pavement. And so dumping their tanks on pavement means there is a greater public health hazard because now not only are those contaminants highly transient, but they are being absorbed into the ground much more slowly since they are on pavement and there are far fewer organisms available on that surface to begin the decomposition process.

that’s why you target RVs - they are the real health hazard when it comes to this. I don’t know about you, but I’ll take a mountain of poo over a river of sewage any day of the week.

JMHO

Wow don't know how to answer that, but to say there are already laws on the books that are not being enforced. anything more than enforcing the laws that already are in place is just a money grab.