Looks like a Ford F200 is in the pipeline

[Voyageurs]

Kinda interesting.

Ford Files Trademark For F-200, Possibly For Upcoming EV Truck Codenamed T3

The trademark filing was submitted on August 28 and is intended for “Motor vehicles, namely gasoline and electric automobiles, pick-up trucks, sport utility vehicles, and their structural parts.”

insideevs.com

 

[Bigblockyeti]

When I can buy one that seats 6 for $50K and add 400 miles of range in 4 minutes, sign me up!

 

[Crazydog]

No thank you! That "truck" is for people who want a truck but don't actually need a truck and never intend to use it as a truck.
So it's fully "Software-updateable"? What happens when an update fails. Has that ever happened to you computer or phone?
I recently read an article that said these all electric vehicles when used in very hot or cold climates can use up to 40% of their battery power for interior climate control.
I'll keep my diesel.

 

[Rich W.]

with enough chassis it could haul a big enough battery to have a little range. But yes, regardless, I’ll be keeping my diesel as well.

 

[Voyageurs]

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No thank you! That "truck" is for people who want a truck but don't actually need a truck and never intend to use it as a truck.
So it's fully "Software-updateable"? What happens when an update fails. Has that ever happened to you computer or phone?
I recently read an article that said these all electric vehicles when used in very hot or cold climates can use up to 40% of their battery power for interior climate control.
I'll keep my diesel.

Depends on the size of the battery I suppose. The older commuter batteries were pretty small, so maybe. New EV’s tend to have big batteries and heat pump. 1 to 2 percent per hour is normal for us and our battery is small compared to a trucks battery. My educated guess would be 1 percent an hour for a truck with something like a 150 kWh battery.

Updates are cool. The vehicle constantly gets better. I have never had one fail in four years on either of our Teslas, and we get updates monthly. Always cool new things.

Jmho.

 

[Rich W.]

They could also make an aux battery with a built in tool box on top like an aux fuel tank for the front of the bed - probably fit 60-80kwh in pretty easily and provide some range extension.

 

[Jim]

But yes, regardless, I’ll be keeping my diesel as well.

I like a diesel too. One of the worse things I've done lately, was to trade my diesel in when I bought my gas 1500. It's just a car with a bed. But to be honest, I like that EV truck. Heck, I can't haul anything of girth in the gas version I've got anyway. And the torque on these EV's is just a whole lot of FUN!

 

[Bigblockyeti]

I do like the concept but between charging time, inflated costs, charging locations and digital rights security (or lack thereof), it will take a while before I'm interested.

 

[Crazydog]

Depends on the size of the battery I suppose. The older commuter batteries were pretty small, so maybe. New EV’s tend to have big batteries and heat pump. 1 to 2 percent per hour is normal for us and our battery is small compared to a trucks battery. My educated guess would be 1 percent an hour for a truck with something like a 150 kWh battery.

Updates are cool. The vehicle constantly gets better. I have never had one fail in four years on either of our Teslas, and we get updates monthly. Always cool new things.

Jmho.

Yup Tesla is a very reliable car.

 

[Voyageurs]

Yup Tesla is a very reliable car.

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Heh heh. Love seeing these. Gas cars are much more likely to catch fire than electric cars, and every bit of insurance data backs that up. Insurance companies have already said that at some point they will have to start charging gas cars higher premiums because they are much more likely to have a fire incident.

Gas vs. Electric Car Fires in 2025 (Shocking Stats)| AutoinsuranceEZ.com

Gas vs. electric car fires comparison show insurance rates of $120/month for gas cars and $100/month for electric cars. Compare car fire stats to find the best choice.

www.autoinsuranceez.com

 

[TheLooks]

You keep saying that but you never mention how many catch fire by the percentage of vehicles in each class there is. And your Tesla is not just a fire, it is almost impossible to put out. Break it down by gas, diesel, and electric and divide by the number in existence and see what you get.

 

[Voyageurs]

You keep saying that but you never mention how many catch fire by the percentage of vehicles in each class there is. And your Tesla is not just a fire, it is almost impossible to put out. Break it down by gas, diesel, and electric and divide by the number in existence and see what you get.

Read the article again.

 

[Bigblockyeti]

No doubt more gas/diesel vehicles are burning and I would guess a greater percentage of ice vs. electric vehicles are self torching but there's so far fewer on the road it wouldn't take many per year to end up being a greater percentage, that article certainly indicates ice being worse. I'm wondering how many different sources gather such information?

Heck, I could get past the range and charge time issues for a commuter if the costs could be reigned in to something reasonable. The digital rights thing is a big sticking point for me too.

 

[Voyageurs]

No doubt more gas/diesel vehicles are burning and I would guess a greater percentage of ice vs. electric vehicles are self torching but there's so far fewer on the road it wouldn't take many per year to end up being a greater percentage, that article certainly indicates ice being worse. I'm wondering how many different sources gather such information?

Heck, I could get past the range and charge time issues for a commuter if the costs could be reigned in to something reasonable. The digital rights thing is a big sticking point for me too.

No. Read the article again. For a 100,000 vehicles of a given type gas vehicles are 61 times more likeky to have a fire than an electric.

I don’t know what digital rights are.

 

[Bigblockyeti]

No. Read the article again. For a 100,000 vehicles of a given type gas vehicles are 61 times more likeky to have a fire than an electric.

I don’t know what digital rights are.

Read what I wrote again, I stated specifically "I'm wondering how many different sources gather such information?" You have presented a single source.

I read the article more times than I need to fully understand the data and more importantly, who is compiling it. There is motive by any company or industry that benefits from government programs, allowances or abatements to skew numbers to best alighn with the propaganda that same government is pushing. For those of us in the know, it's referred to as creative accounting.

Regarding digital rights, specific to vehicles in this instance, google is your friend.

 

[Crazydog]

Heh heh. Love seeing these. Gas cars are much more likely to catch fire than electric cars, and every bit of insurance data backs that up. Insurance companies have already said that at some point they will have to start charging gas cars higher premiums because they are much more likely to have a fire incident.

Gas vs. Electric Car Fires in 2025 (Shocking Stats)| AutoinsuranceEZ.com

Gas vs. electric car fires comparison show insurance rates of $120/month for gas cars and $100/month for electric cars. Compare car fire stats to find the best choice.

www.autoinsuranceez.com

This is true but when you read the article it is about vehicles involved in a collision.
Electric vehicles catch on fire with ZERO warning when just parked. No thanks

 

[Kevin D Pem]

This is true but when you read the article it is about vehicles involved in a collision.
Electric vehicles catch on fire with ZERO warning when just parked. No thanks

Justification for electric vehicles can be discussed in 15 minutes! But that will not change the mind of someone with an invested interest!

 

[TheLooks]

Or a paid interest.