Mercedes 2.0 vs 3.0

[Nodak52]

I am contemplating buying a Winnebago View but cannot decide between a 2024 with a 3.0 L engine or a 2025 with the new 2.0 turbo charged Mercedes engine. Does anybody have a recommendation or advice?

 

[Holdmybeer]

I am contemplating buying a Winnebago View but cannot decide between a 2024 with a 3.0 L engine or a 2025 with the new 2.0 turbo charged Mercedes engine. Does anybody have a recommendation or advice?

Gemini says the 2.0 L (211 hp) w/9 spd..tran. is technically superior in terms of power and efficiency. The 2025 is awd as well. The V6 ( 188 hp) has a distinct growl while the I-4 is quieter but has a distinct high pitch when climbing steep grades. Old school RV'ers prefer the V6 due to it's simpler proven reliability.

 

[Nodak52]

Thank you for your insight, it’s very much appreciated. Because the 2.0 is so new I’d certainly want the full manufacturers warranty as offered only as a new RV. The used 2024 View with the 3.0 V6 only has 4,100 miles but has proven reliability. Again, thank you for your response.

 

[Mudsock]

Our 2025 View 24D has the 2.0 L engine with the 9 speed transmission. It is a very nice combination. I enjoy it the most when I use the adaptive cruise control. Going up and down substantial grades (between Utah and Indiana) the transmission shifts gears almost unnoticeably and simply maintains speed. I can tell it is shifting gears most easily by watching the tachometer. Going down grades, the speed does not exceed the set point. If a car or truck in front of you slows down, the Mercedes Sprinter slows down, even to a complete stop. When the vehicle in front takes off again, the Sprinter follows, accelerating up to the set point speed.

We are getting about 15 MPG overall. We do not tow. The engine does not use oil. There have been no issues with it in 11,600 miles. It starts moving well from a dead stop. I have heard that the older engine does not do as well starting off.

The 2.0L is not a brand new engine. They have used it in other vehicles. The high-output Mercedes 2.0L is a more powerful variant of the modular OM654 engine family, differing primarily in software tuning and turbocharging. The OM654 has been in production since 2016.

I have never driven the 6 cylinder Mercedes diesel in a Sprinter, so I can't compare them from personal experience. However, I am well pleased with the 4 cylinder 2.0L they are providing today.

 

[Nodak52]

I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your reply. I had the opportunity to buy a 2024 View with the old 3.0 liter 6 cylinder or a new 2025 with the new 2.0 turbo charged 4 cylinder for an additional $20k. With your response you have confirmed my decision to spend the extra money. At this very moment, on January 22nd, here in far north North Dakota, the temperature is 50° colder than your refrigerator, so I’m only dreaming of Spring when I’ll hit the road with my new 2025 Winnebago View!
Again, thank you for your response!

 

[Mudsock]

If the roads are clear, you don't have to wait for spring. You can't put water in the tanks, without risking damage, but you can travel in the coach and remain warm with the propane furnace. You can place a small tub in the sink and use it to catch water as you wash your hands using a bottle of water. You can dump the water from the tub into gallon jugs to dispose of, or simply dump it on the ground. If you use paper and plastic disposable dinnerware, you won't need to wash much. There are ways around all the issues. I have slept in my coach this month. The propane furnace does a good job.

 

[Nodak52]

Our 2025 View 24D has the 2.0 L engine with the 9 speed transmission. It is a very nice combination. I enjoy it the most when I use the adaptive cruise control. Going up and down substantial grades (between Utah and Indiana) the transmission shifts gears almost unnoticeably and simply maintains speed. I can tell it is shifting gears most easily by watching the tachometer. Going down grades, the speed does not exceed the set point. If a car or truck in front of you slows down, the Mercedes Sprinter slows down, even to a complete stop. When the vehicle in front takes off again, the Sprinter follows, accelerating up to the set point speed.

We are getting about 15 MPG overall. We do not tow. The engine does not use oil. There have been no issues with it in 11,600 miles. It starts moving well from a dead stop. I have heard that the older engine does not do as well starting off.

The 2.0L is not a brand new engine. They have used it in other vehicles. The high-output Mercedes 2.0L is a more powerful variant of the modular OM654 engine family, differing primarily in software tuning and turbocharging. The OM654 has been in production since 2016.

I have never driven the 6 cylinder Mercedes diesel in a Sprinter, so I can't compare them from personal experience. However, I am well pleased with the 4 cylinder 2.0L they are providing today.

Our 2025 View 24D has the 2.0 L engine with the 9 speed transmission. It is a very nice combination. I enjoy it the most when I use the adaptive cruise control. Going up and down substantial grades (between Utah and Indiana) the transmission shifts gears almost unnoticeably and simply maintains speed. I can tell it is shifting gears most easily by watching the tachometer. Going down grades, the speed does not exceed the set point. If a car or truck in front of you slows down, the Mercedes Sprinter slows down, even to a complete stop. When the vehicle in front takes off again, the Sprinter follows, accelerating up to the set point speed.

We are getting about 15 MPG overall. We do not tow. The engine does not use oil. There have been no issues with it in 11,600 miles. It starts moving well from a dead stop. I have heard that the older engine does not do as well starting off.

The 2.0L is not a brand new engine. They have used it in other vehicles. The high-output Mercedes 2.0L is a more powerful variant of the modular OM654 engine family, differing primarily in software tuning and turbocharging. The OM654 has been in production since 2016.

I have never driven the 6 cylinder Mercedes diesel in a Sprinter, so I can't compare them from personal experience. However, I am well pleased with the 4 cylinder 2.0L they are providing today.

If the roads are clear, you don't have to wait for spring. You can't put water in the tanks, without risking damage, but you can travel in the coach and remain warm with the propane furnace. You can place a small tub in the sink and use it to catch water as you wash your hands using a bottle of water. You can dump the water from the tub into gallon jugs to dispose of, or simply dump it on the ground. If you use paper and plastic disposable dinnerware, you won't need to wash much. There are ways around all the issues. I have slept in my coach this month. The propane furnace does a good job.

I wish I had your experience! Your use of a small tub, using bottled water, disposal dinnerware are all great tips, thank you! But I think it’s best I wait until it warms up… a lot! Right now it’s 23° below zero with a wind chill of 36° below zero. It’s just not safe out there.

 

[Mudsock]

Mileage update

It turns out that the miles per gallon displayed on my Scangage 3 is inaccurate. When I did the calculation using the odometer and the number of gallons dispensed, the 2.0L Mercedes diesel was getting 17.66PG on one tank and 18+ MPG on the next tank. So I am getting 17-18 MPG in the mountains of Tennessee. We run 62 mph on cruise control. The MPG display in the console where it displays MPG and average speed is fairly accurate.

 

[Nodak52]

Mileage update

It turns out that the miles per gallon displayed on my Scangage 3 is inaccurate. When I did the calculation using the odometer and the number of gallons dispensed, the 2.0L Mercedes diesel was getting 17.66PG on one tank and 18+ MPG on the next tank. So I am getting 17-18 MPG in the mountains of Tennessee. We run 62 mph on cruise control. The MPG display in the console where it displays MPG and average speed is fairly accurate.

In 27 days I’ll fly to Seattle to pickup my 2025 View with the 2.0L Mercedes diesel and drive it back to North Dakota. I’ll primarily drive interstate highways and keep my speed between 60 and 65 mph. Several mountain passes, a stop in Spokane, WA and another in Helena, Mt then a lot of flat prairie so it will be interesting. I’ll let you know how it goes.