New competition shown at CES

[PhatDaddy]

Competition (website and pre-production model only - not yet delivering) goes live this morning at CES: Evotrex. But can they actually deliver at the estimated price point and time frame? Some Pebble-matching (hmm... and the founder use to work for Pebble...?) and some unique and standout features - some I've seen on Living Vehicles trailers. 28' and 9900 gross for the fully loaded unit, so a beefy beast, with manufacturing set to start... Q4 2026? China-centric supply chain and design teams apparently (with US assembly?). Electric (or extended range electric like this one, with a built-in generator to accompany the Pebble-size battery) seems to be the future of RVs.

 

[Holdmybeer]

I think the extended range concept for both EV's and ERecreationalV's, will be the direction the industry will have to go if it is to have more than a niche clientel. An all electric, plug in only, Rec. EV might work in some areas of the country, but they aren't practical for many other regions with limited EV charging infrastructure nor for example is even a 77 KW battery going to last long ( a couple of days maybe) boondocking out somewhere when it's 100° in the shade and the a/c is trying to keep a greenhouse cool while running every other accessory necessary.

 

[turbopilot]

Competition (website and pre-production model only - not yet delivering) goes live this morning at CES: Evotrex.

Great to see more EV towables. Started a new Evotrex Owner's Group.

 

[Obsessed2findARuggedHybid]

I think the extended range concept for both EV's and ERecreationalV's, will be the direction the industry will have to go if it is to have more than a niche clientel. An all electric, plug in only, Rec. EV might work in some areas of the country, but they aren't practical for many other regions with limited EV charging infrastructure nor for example is even a 77 KW battery going to last long ( a couple of days maybe) boondocking out somewhere when it's 100° in the shade and the a/c is trying to keep a greenhouse cool while running every other accessory necessary.

IMAO this trailer is way to heavy. The tongue weight and length is going to push it to 3/4 ton trucks. In other words no EV trucks will handle it unless the use WDH. I also dont think that a stinky ICE powered generator is the answer to theses new eclectic drivetrain RVs.

 

[turbopilot]

I also think that a stinky ICE powered generator is the answer to theses new eclectic drivetrain RVs.

I agree. The Evotrex is too heavy for off-road use and it will require an F-250/F-350 tow vehicle. While it does have bigger tires and active propulsion this does offset the heavy weight to some degree.

I have had 3 F-150 PowerBoosts with the 7.2 kW inverter generator since they were introduced in 2021. This inverter generator is vey quiet, running the motor at 800 RPM but most importantly it does not continually run the ICE in the F-150. The ProPower 7.2 kW inverter generator actually runs off the high voltage LFP battery in the PowerBoost. So the trailer loads are place on the PowerBoost high voltage battery, not the traction motor generator attached to the engine. The ECU is only looking at keeping that battery between 30% and 70% state of charge irrespective of the demand placed on the inverter generator by the trailer it is attached to.

The result is that the ICE in the PowerBoost simply cycles on and off depending on the state of charge of the Powerboost high voltage battery. The Airstream I have been towing with the PowerBoost connected with a dual leg 30 amp umbilical to the inverter generator has a base load of around 300 watts when turned on. So sitting at a campsite the PowerBoost to support that load will start every 30 to 40 minutes, run at 800 RPM for about 5 minutes to top off the PowerBoost high voltage battery then automatically shut down. I have left it in that mode, locked and unattended.

With full pollution control equipment on the PowerBoost there really is no odor, it is very quiet and only drips water out of the tailpipe as it combustion water vapor condenses in the tail pipe.

Why more towable RV owners have not discovered the PowerBoost is a mystery to me. I see these guys in campgrounds with premium trim pickup tow vehicle lugging around these noisy stand alone generators with half the output of a PowerBoost, when for the same price you can get a higher trim F-150 PowerBoost with the 7.2 kW inverter generator as a "free" option.

 

[Obsessed2findARuggedHybid]

Great points

I agree. The Evotrex is too heavy for off-road use and it will require an F-250/F-350 tow vehicle. While it does have bigger tires and active propulsion this does offset the heavy weight to some degree.

I have had 3 F-150 PowerBoosts with the 7.2 kW inverter generator since they were introduced in 2021. This inverter generator is vey quiet, running the motor at 800 RPM but most importantly it does not continually run the ICE in the F-150. The ProPower 7.2 kW inverter generator actually runs off the high voltage LFP battery in the PowerBoost. So the trailer loads are place on the PowerBoost high voltage battery, not the traction motor generator attached to the engine. The ECU is only looking at keeping that battery between 30% and 70% state of charge irrespective of the demand placed on the inverter generator by the trailer it is attached to.

The result is that the ICE in the PowerBoost simply cycles on and off depending on the state of charge of the Powerboost high voltage battery. The Airstream I have been towing with the PowerBoost connected with a dual leg 30 amp umbilical to the inverter generator has a base load of around 300 watts when turned on. So sitting at a campsite the PowerBoost to support that load will start every 30 to 40 minutes, run at 800 RPM for about 5 minutes to top off the PowerBoost high voltage battery then automatically shut down. I have left it in that mode, locked and unattended.

With full pollution control equipment on the PowerBoost there really is no odor, it is very quiet and only drips water out of the tailpipe as it combustion water vapor condenses in the tail pipe.

Why more towable RV owners have not discovered the PowerBoost is a mystery to me. I see these guys in campgrounds with premium trim pickup tow vehicle lugging around these noisy stand alone generators with half the output of a PowerBoost, when for the same price you can get a higher trim F-150 PowerBoost with the 7.2 kW inverter generator as a "free" option.

Please note i meant to say I don't think the ice powered generator s are the answer...

Great points on your built in generator. Having it connected to the truck gas tank is much more tolerable.

I just don't feel like most EV truck owners want an ICE powered generator on a ev trailer.

 

[turbopilot]

I just don't feel like most EV truck owners want an ICE powered generator on a ev trailer.

A few Airstreams have a generator option that I think is 2.5 kW. They place it in the spare tire area under the bed. Not a pleasant sensation with noise and vibration. So I agree, in a small towable there is just not enough room to get far away from an ICE engine in the RV. But the weight penalty is the killer for the idea, since it needs a separate 20 gallon fuel tank.