California ban on gas engines <25hp

[redbaron]

The Newark signed by Newsome will apply to weed eaters, lawn mowers, generators, and other small engines.

It does not include RC cars, model airplanes.

It does not apply to the larger generators found in Newmar diesel coach's as they are 40+ HP

California moves toward ban on gas lawn mowers and leaf blowers

California will outlaw the sale of new gas-powered lawn mowers, leaf blowers and chain saws as early as 2024 under a new law signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom.

www.latimes.com

 

[redbaron]

Gas coaches in the newmar lineup will not allowed in their current size of 5.5KW, as those are 20HP.

Its probably a pretty simple fix to add 6hp to the rating to get past this new law.

 

[FL-JOE]

Wow. Talk about over reaching. California wild fires over the past couple of years have sent smoke not only over much of California but to numerous other States, and now they want to worry about a few weed wackers? OMG.

 

[KR1973]

Wow. Talk about over reaching. California wild fires over the past couple of years have sent smoke not only over much of California but to numerous other States, and now they want to worry about a few weed wackers? OMG.

There are plenty of good reasons why CA is losing population, lets all hope these bright ideas stay in CA.

 

[redbaron]

I have a few battery powered yard tools. They are not as strong as the gas equivalent.

I prefer the electric variety for my RV, and carry a chainsaw and weed eater. Would never consider using those around the house where real work is required.

 

[Voyageurs]

It’s aimed at reducing weed eaters and lawnmowers. Good riddance to both. Stinky noisy things. Happy to see them go.

 

[Jabber Jaw]

Every lawnmower, weed-eater, chain saw, etc; in the entire state of California would never generate as much pollution of any type, as one plane trip by the California Governor!

 

[Voyageurs]

Every lawnmower, weed-eater, chain saw, etc; in the entire state of California would never generate as much pollution of any type, as one plane trip by the California Governor!

Yah. But he doesn’t fly his plane on my lawn.

 

[Fish]

Yah. But he doesn’t fly his plane on my lawn.

Maybe you can figure out how to mow my 3 acres with electricity.

 

[Voyageurs]

Maybe you can figure out how to mow my 3 acres with electricity.

I’m not sure what you mean “figure out”. Turn it on and go. EGOs are good for two acres on a set of batteries. Change as required. Or are you asking on how to change the batteries.

As mowers are required to do bigger jobs like golf courses the equipment will change accordingly.

 

[Scooterfan]

Newsome's gardeners will be exempt of course, as will the machinery used at his winery. My (newly acquired) DeWalt (20V) blower will clean my patio and deck of debris...then it's back on the charger. Oh yeah, we're not supposed to charge between the hours of 4:00 and 9:00pm as there's not enough electricity to go around. As most of you know, our governor is a nut case. My riding Deere, Sthil chainsaw, and Honda weed eater will survive this lunacy I pray... We close our nuclear power plant and increase the need for electricity. Yup...California continues to live up to it's reputation ? As you already know (I've said it here) our premium gas now exceeds $5.00 a gallon. Filling up our 75 gallon tank gets pricey. Blessings, Christ will come again my friends...

 

["EZ"]

Newsome's gardeners will be exempt of course, as will the machinery used at his winery. My (newly acquired) DeWalt (20V) blower will clean my patio and deck of debris...then it's back on the charger. Oh yeah, we're not supposed to charge between the hours of 4:00 and 6:00pm as there's not enough electricity to go around. As most of you know, our governor is a nut case. My riding Deere, Sthil chainsaw, and Honda weed eater will survive this lunacy I pray... We close our nuclear power plant and increase the need for electricity. Yup...California continues to live up to it's reputation ? As you already know (I've said it here) our premium gas now exceeds $5.00 a gallon. Filling up our 75 gallon tank gets pricey. Blessings, Christ will come again my friends...

Get out while you still can!!!

 

[Scooterfan]

Kids...up and down the state. Can't leave 'em so complaining is all I have left ?

 

[Voyageurs]

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[J&JD]

Every lawnmower, weed-eater, chain saw, etc; in the entire state of California would never generate as much pollution of any type, as one plane trip by the California Governor!

Before everyone goes beating up on others again you might want to do a bit of research on just how polluting a lot of this equipment can be.

https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/offroad/sore/sm_en_fs.pdf?_ga=2.71233360.1364124981.1624629871-1659041529.1623334947

I don’t much care for a lot of regulation either but this is probably the only planet I will be living on.….I think.

 

[Scooterfan]

"arb.ca.gov" says all one needs to know. In Santa Barbara County the "air pollution control board" has an interesting history. Once manned by over 40 employees, the department was supplemented by their fee income. My neighbor worked for them and confirmed policy was not always based upon truth. Hmmm, imaging that...misleading information from government. The APCB pushed the oil companies out. Yup, lawn tools do pollute. The fire currently burning (in SB) is doing a really good job of polluting too. My MH and cars pollute. They would like to take ALL those away as well, and will one day try. In the meantime, the Creator of this planet has a plan. Mankind is a part of it. This WILL be the only planet you live on my friend...Blessings ?

 

[redbaron]

Wow--they really are stretching the truth there.

My lawn mower uses less than .25 gallons of gas in 1 hour. A car that drives 300 miles on < 0.25 gallons of gas does not exist--and frankly never will.

Even Electric cars use more fossil fuel to drive 300 miles than my lawn mower does in 1 hour----where do you think electricity comes from? Most of it is fossil fuels.

Unless California has built lots of power plants since 2018, I think the above graph is close enough to accurate. (source: 2018 Total System Electric Generation)

Update -- Found the 2020 Guide here: 2020 Total System Electric Generation

 

[Voyageurs]

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Wow--they really are stretching the truth there.

My lawn mower uses less than .25 gallons of gas in 1 hour. A car that drives 300 miles on < 0.25 gallons of gas does not exist--and frankly never will.

Even Electric cars use more fossil fuel to drive 300 miles than my lawn mower does in 1 hour----where do you think electricity comes from? Most of it is fossil fuels.

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Unless California has built lots of power plants since 2018, I think the above graph is close enough to accurate. (source: 2018 Total System Electric Generation)

Update -- Found the 2020 Guide here: 2020 Total System Electric Generation

Wow. So, you think this is about fuel efficiency? What emission controls do leaf blowers or lawnmowers have in your area?

 

[redbaron]

Where do emissions come from? Burning of fuel. If you burn .25 gallons it creates less emissions than driving a car 300 miles.

Emissions is the term used to describe the gases and particles which are put into the air or emitted by various sources.

 

[Voyageurs]

Where do emissions come from? Burning of fuel. If you burn .25 gallons it creates less emissions than driving a car 300 miles.

No. It doesn’t work like that. Emission control systems and how they work is a big topic. But there is some good info online.

Cheers.