Question 2 Part Question—One on Freightliner 2nd on Ventana

[Tip&Tina]

We are trying to get information on the Ventana. We have the 2020 Ventana brochure and went to the Tampa show and looked at the rigs there. The brochure does not answer a few questions.

Regarding Freightliner: How do I get a Spec Sheet for a Ventana? A few months ago I could google the terms and pull up on Freightliner RV (FCCCRV) a list of manufacturers and drill down to the model. I found one on the DS on an old thread (on the other board) and downloaded that. That gives us all the specs Newmar leaves off from the Brochure and what you have to get from a Sales person. Who might be wrong.

Regarding the Ventana: What are the tire sizes on the 4369? Every bit we’ve been able to figure out except that. The DH really wants to know.

Also, does anyone have the table and chairs and “kinda, sort of desk” on the Ventana or DS? We have a really nice, comfortable booth in the CS and like it. As we travel and DH works on the table, he is realizing he needs a place for laptop, printer, drawer for hanging, paper, etc. The DS we looked at really offered this and we liked it. Since we will be FT, we need something we can turn into a desk. The table, chairs and desk option fits the bill; just wondering if anyone has it.

Thank you for your help and advice/direction!

 

[boomer]

We are on a Spartan, so no help there.
We have 305/70R22.5 tires.
We also have the dinette with roll away table, which I use to work on. At the show we saw the dinette with the computer desk, pretty tight computer drawer for keyboard and mouse. If using a laptop only should be fine.

 

[Tip&Tina]

Hey, boomer, thanks!

We are looking to use a laptop and perhaps a monitor. DH really likes the window to face on either the DS or the Ventana.

Re: the tires- is that the size all around or on the front vs. back?

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

What kind of Freightliner chassis information do you need? The 2020 Ventana 4369 sits on a FL XCR chassis. There is some info about it here.

XC Series RV Chassis | Freightliner Custom Chassis

For more than 20 years, the XC has been continuously refined to be the most innovative, most supported and best performing chassis in the industry.

www.fcccrv.com

Newmar's online model brochure has some basic specs.

2023 Ventana motor coach specs | Newmar

Take a look at the 2023 Ventana motor coach specs; floor plan, chassis and construction specifications, including height, weight, horsepower and price.

www.newmarcorp.com

What other spec information are you interested in?

Edit: 2020 Ventana 4369 tire sizes: Michelin XZA3: 275/80R 22.5 all around,

TJ

 

[boomer]

Hey, boomer, thanks!

We are looking to use a laptop and perhaps a monitor. DH really likes the window to face on either the DS or the Ventana.

Re: the tires- is that the size all around or on the front vs. back?

On ours the 305's are on all 8 tires. Oh and they are Michelin.

 

[sheridany]

Per TJ

Edit: 2020 Ventana 4369 tire sizes: Michelin XZA3: 275/80R 22.5 all around,

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[Tip&Tina]

Hi TJ!

Thanks for the Freightliner link; when going there and clicking on “Coaches”, previously I could see a drop down list of all makes and models. Yesterday and today I simply can’t. I don’t know if it’s my tablet or if Freightliner removed the links. ??‍

Here is a link Ventana to the Spartan site and all the data the husband wants to compare, rig to rig, DS to Ventana. We have the DS Spec sheet (pdf) for 2020 Freightliner-it’s up on IRV2 on a thread. He is a compare line by line, coach by coach kind of person. I have to find the data for him. ?

Thanks for the wheel size Boomer...that is what is Not is in the Brochure.

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

I did a little looking around on the Freightliner Custom Chassis website and it appears that their links to "Coaches" (where you would find the data you are looking for) are down. Don't know whether they are currently down for site updating (my suspicion) or FL has decided to quit providing that info (doubtful).

I have reported the bad links to the webmaster. Let's see if they come back up. Sometimes when web folks are updating a site, they wind up with broken links and don't realize it until someone says something.

Having owned both Freightliner and Spartan chassis motorhomes, I feel confident in saying they are very comparable. The pluses on each are offset by some minuses. From my perspective, there is very little noticeable difference. We have a Spartan Chassis on the current coach, but had a Freightliner XC on our previous Ventana LR and it worked just fine too.

TJ

 

[Tip&Tina]

Oh, Jim, that’s awesome! I don’t have a clue how to report to the webmaster! Thank you!

We went to the Freightliner seminar at the Tampa show and were really impressed by the displays, the information available and all the helpful personnel who were willing to answer questions. Really made the hubs happy to see the Freightliner chassis and he wants to get a Freightliner because of the steering based controls; so much easier than looking over to the left for basics-especially for DP rookies!

Really appreciate your help on this! Hopefully it’s a Tampa RV show glitch!

 

[Tip&Tina]

Jim, just want to thank you-what ever magic you did with the webmaster worked! We have both spec sheets now and thanks to you and that, Keith, DH, really wants a DS. ???

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

Jim, just want to thank you-what ever magic you did with the webmaster worked! We have both spec sheets now and thanks to you and that, Keith, DH, really wants a DS. ???

Glad it worked out. No "magic" on this end. Most websites have a link to report issues. I just found and used that link. As I mentioned previously, sometimes links get broken when websites get updated, or Freightliner may have been in the process of an update at the time and got the site back up when they were finished. Either way, I'm happy you got the information you and your husband needed.

The Dutch Star is a great coach and I'm sure you will be pleased with one, regardless of whether it is on a Freightliner or Spartan chassis. Great choice either way.

TJ aka JIm

 

[Tip&Tina]

You’re the best! Can’t wait til we’re out west and we can hook up with you and LadyDi as we travel!

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

During the late spring, summer and early fall, you'll probably find us at our RV lot in Polson, Montana, or traveling somewhere in the West. One-in-a-while, we get East of the Mississippi, but mostly stay out West.

Would love to run into you folks somewhere in that new Dutch Star.

TJ

 

[deaton]

You asked about the table with chairs with the “kinda, sorta desk” which is an accurate description.

We had that on our 17 DS 4018 and we have ordered the same for our 2020 DS 4081.

The desk part is fine. You get a keyboard drawer to pull out and there is a hole in the back corner to run wires from the cabinet below.

Of course it doesn’t have much in the way of knee space like you would have with a regular desk. Also, the accommodation for the printer has some issues. We use an HP laser jet and the only way that will fit in the cabinet is to remove the shelf and set it on the floor of the cabinet. You might get a smaller inkjet to fit on that shelf, but it will be tight.


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[Tip&Tina]

deaton, thank you for that description. We have a massive printer that needs to be retired. Very helpful to know where to put things. Keith, DH, wants to work while gazing out the window. I think that's possible with that set up.

 

[Old-RV'er]

My Suggestion, if you are looking at the 43' Ventana, do yourself a favor and move up to the DS. You get more for the money, and more HP to boot I think. Give that some thought. A 43' MH is a bear to get into lots of parks, forget about national and state parks, it's too long to move around some roads on the inside. We just stayed at a place called Noccalula Falls Park and Campground City Park in Gadsden, AL. I have the 3407 Ventana, the lady said to take off the toad (Jeep Wrangler Unlimited), but no, I could drive it around the park without doing that, even was able to get out of there. I stayed there before in my 40' MH, and I had to take it off to get around the park, and still detached, I had to backup a few times to get around some corners. Yes the space is nice, the second bath might be nice, the hassle of detaching toad, and almost scrapping trees, etc. is not so nice. It's your money, so you spend it like you want, but at least consider trying to stay shorter and at least look at the DS. I got no skin in this game.