Question Are 2018 Newmar's turning over faster than other model years?

[Neal]

I'm seeing more 2018's being rotated into 2020 Newmars than I think I've read since I got into this mid 2017. I realize New Aire's are a part of this not only due to the slightly larger size but much better engine and also the initial grief New Aire's had with the "beta" models being first year. But I'm seeing DSDP's turning over from '18 to '20's oddly. Anyone else seeing this or getting the same impression?

 

[CaptainGizmo]

Research is showing that the 2019’s are not only holding their value, but actually INCREASING. And some models, like the 4369 with custom paint and special tech upgrades, are pulling 110% of their price...IF you can find one! Super Rare!!


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[redbaron]

Research is showing that the 2019’s are not only holding their value, but actually INCREASING. And some models, like the 4369 with custom paint and special tech upgrades, are pulling 110% of their price...IF you can find one! Super Rare!!


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I guess I have one of those special rigs! What are you seeing the 2019 4369 going for?

2019 DSDP 4369 * Active Air * NHSO

 

[CaptainGizmo]

I guess I have one of those special rigs! What are you seeing the 2019 4369 going for?

2019 DSDP 4369 * Active Air * NHSO

110% of what I paid, Ronnie!

In your case, the Red Baron special should command 120%...at least!

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[Stuart W]

Research is showing that the 2019’s are not only holding their value, but actually INCREASING. And some models, like the 4369 with custom paint and special tech upgrades, are pulling 110% of their price...IF you can find one! Super Rare!!


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I agree that resale of late model DS’s are at a premium, But I’m having a problem with the math of 110%. This is why the 2020 DS had a price increase of approximately 4% over 19’s. Why would someone pay 110% for a 19 when they can get a 20 at a better deal?

 

[Stuart W]

Are there more 18’s being traded up for 20’s? Living in California where sales tax is 7.5 to 10% not so much. California charges full price sales tax every time. The high resale values coupled with Newmar’s consistent year after year price increases in states where only the difference in price sales tax is charged would make it very tempting

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

Not sure whether the perceived 2018 Newmar turnover rate is real or imagined, but we are quite happy with our 2018 Mountain Aire and have no thoughts going to a 2020. We figure "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

TJ

 

[CaptainGizmo]

MAN, GUYS...really? You mean my humor wasn’t obvious enough? LOL

I was, tongue-in-cheek, trying to artificially inflate the value of my coach...hence why I “specifically” said ones like mine were super rare.

Guess my subtle humor needs even more edge. ;-)


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[Stuart W]

MAN, GUYS...really? You mean my humor wasn’t obvious enough? LOL

I was, tongue-in-cheek, trying to artificially inflate the value of my coach...hence why I “specifically” said ones like mine were super rare.

Guess my subtle humor needs even more edge. ;-)


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Ah our court jester has arrived ???

 

[Neal]

MAN, GUYS...really? You mean my humor wasn’t obvious enough? LOL

You do realize that a mod removed my post "over there" because my humor was not followed by an EMOJI. Yes, seriously! So you should feel really honored here haha.

But I thought because your coach took better pictures than mine then the value was justified.

 

[CaptainGizmo]

THEY DID??? ????

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

"Humor is good1". That's according to "Lieutenant Steve" in another of my favorite movies, Good Morning, Vietnam.

TJ

 

[redbaron]

Ok, now we have a problem. I just listed my coach and ordered a new 2020, all based on the guaranteed 120% resale value.

@CaptainGizmo how do you plan to make me whole?





2019 DSDP 4369 * Active Air * NHSO

 

[Neal]

I like playing Spin the Gizmo. It's funnnn ?

 

[Stuart W]

I just went and purchased 5 2020 DS’s
I figured @ 20% increase each, I will sell them next year and with the profits get a 2021 free and clear. Thanks Captain G

 

[CaptainGizmo]

I just went and purchased 5 2020 DS’s
I figured @ 20% increase each, I will sell them next year and with the profits get a 2021 free and clear. Thanks Captain G

NOOOOWW yer lern’n Laddie!


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[CaptainGizmo]

Ok, now we have a problem. I just listed my coach and ordered a new 2020, all based on the guaranteed 120% resale value.

@CaptainGizmo how do you plan to make me whole?





2019 DSDP 4369 * Active Air * NHSO

Oh. Good news!

With your mods, on a 2020, I’m forecasting the Red Baron Special will command a tidy profit for you!

I’m lining up my order for a 2021 though. 2020 is so...yesterday. [emoji23]


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[TJ&LadyDi]

Sooooo, what I'm hearing is that the value of our 2018 MADP should be increasing 20% a year. Think we'll wait until the value increases 140%, then we'll sell and buy an Essex,,,maybe, even a 2027 VentEssex...with the proceeds. Do I understand this increasing value thing right?

TJ

 

[CaptainGizmo]

Nope. Sorry. This rapid price increase applies only to the 2019 DS4369.

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P. S. Gratuitous usage of enjoy, courtesy of Neal’s request.


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[deaton]

I'm seeing more 2018's being rotated into 2020 Newmars than I think I've read since I got into this mid 2017. I realize New Aire's are a part of this not only due to the slightly larger size but much better engine and also the initial grief New Aire's had with the "beta" models being first year. But I'm seeing DSDP's turning over from '18 to '20's oddly. Anyone else seeing this or getting the same impression?

Well we didn't have an '18, but we did just flip our '17 for a 2020 DS 4081. It's hard to believe, but I actually made a list of the differences between our 17 and the 20 and I came up with 42 items and that is probably not everything. There was a significant change from 17 to 18 in the layout of the interiors on the DS. They changed up the arrangement of the electronics cabinets, moved the televator button, put a ladder on the emergency exit, made more room for the driver seat up front, etc. But the big change for us on the 20 was in the bath area.

We like to stay in the 40 foot length. We have had a bigger coach, but we like the 40. We seriously looked at the 35 foot New Aire before settling on another 40. What sold us this time was the redesign of the bath area.

Everybody knows the 4369 is the most popular floorplan and a lot of that has to do with the bath. This was, IMO, a weak point for the 4018. While the 4018 has probably been the second most popular floor plan in recent years, it had issues in the bath area. The round shower was cramped. The toilet was in front of the emergency door. The washer dryer were next to the toilet.

We saw the replacement floor plan, the 4081, and quickly realized that Newmar has fixed all these issues. Clear access to the emergency door, larger rectangular shower, and the washer'/dryer have been moved away from the toilet. Overall, a WIN WIN WIN. If the 4081 floor plan had been offered in a MA, we likely would have gone for that instead, but there is always next year.