EvoTrex Walkthrough

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Another walkthrough. 20 gallon on board gas tank. One of the reasons it is pushing a GVW of 10,000 lbs.

 

[PhatDaddy]

Definitely impressive. So many innovations for an EVRV. And DC OUT charging too! But manufacturing not scheduled to start (in the US? R&D and supply chain is all China) until Q4 2026. Can they deliver and keep the schedule and price as announced? We will see.

 

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And DC OUT charging too!

Interesting twist on the NACS port. It will do DC Fast Charging OUT, but it cannot do DC Fast Charging IN. It is limited to 6 kW IN through the NACS port. No idea why.

And yes, like Pebble, content is mostly from China, as I understand from reliable sources.

The suspension and brakes (disc brakes) are awesome. Best in class.

 

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CES Coverage

 

[PhatDaddy]

?The suspension and brakes (disc brakes) are awesome. Best in class.?

Can you provide further info regarding the "suspension and brakes"?

 

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Can you provide further info regarding the "suspension and brakes"?

There were a few shots in one of the walk through videos showing the suspension and brakes. There is a trailing link suspension with air bags. Looks like they used a reinforced BAL frame. All four wheels had disc brakes. The whole system is very similar to the undercarriage of the Bruder RV's from Australia.

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[PhatDaddy]

There were a few shots in one of the walk through videos showing the suspension and brakes. There is a trailing link suspension with air bags. Looks like they used a reinforced BAL frame. All four wheels had disc brakes. The whole system is very similar to the undercarriage of the Bruder RV's from Australia.

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Checked it out... I see the similarities.

 

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And another CES walkthrough this time by an EvoTrex employee. Looks like all the folks with name tags around the booth are Chinese, so pretty clear where this vehicle is coming from.

Generator Engine called automotive grade. He said the engine is used in other (presumably Chinese) EREV automotive applications. It is a mature engine used in several EREV’s. Will not disclose the output of the drive motor

Will not disclose power output of the motor or the size of the motor. Twenty gallon gas tank that delivers 225 kWh. Generator output ranges up to 60 kW. While the generator is running it can output up to 60 kW of DC power via the NACS port out to another vehicle. The 40 kWH LFP battery cannot export via the NACS connector to an outside load (like an EV). You can export from the battery via a NEMA 14-50 plug to a load outside the vehicle up to 12 kW.

Projecting deliveries first half of 2027. Being introduced simultaneously in the US, Canada and Australia.

So this is an EREV towable RV drawing technology from the very large EREV passenger car and truck market already established in China. I can only guess this is happening because the tariffs for EREV RV's are much lower than EREV cars and trucks made in China.

While the idea is innovative, given that many EV's, EREV's and HEV's tow vehicles on the market come with integral inverter based generators, I just do not see the logic having a separate generator and gas tank inside the trailer. Granted this generator will put out 60 kW while most inverter based generators only put out 7.2 kW to 12 kW, but you don't need that output to charge the trailer battery.

This design may appeal to stand alone use cases where a generator tow vehicle is not available or desired. This design also will appeal to EV owners, as it will allow gasoline to electric conversion anywhere at 60 kW via the NACS port to charge an EV. But if you are camping one charge of an EV would likely consume about 50% of the gasoline stored in the trailer. Then you would have to haul fuel back to the campsite for sustained camping. If gasoline is not available the only way to charge the trailer the 43 kWh battery is with on board solar or Level 2 charging at 6 kW.

If I owned an EV tow vehicle this trailer might be appealing but only the high trim level Cybertruck can tow 10,000 lbs. Only the highest trim of the now discontinued Ford Lightning can tow a 10,000 lb load. So this RV will not help most EV truck owners. The new RAM and Ford EREV's will most likely be rated above 10,000 lbs towing.

 

[PhatDaddy]

“…pretty clear where this vehicle is coming from…

Agreed

“…If I owned an EV tow vehicle this trailer might be appealing but only the high trim level Cybertruck can tow 10,000 lbs. Only the highest trim of the now discontinued Ford Lightning can tow a 10,000 lb load. So this RV will not help most EV truck owners. The new RAM and Ford EREV's will most likely be rated above 10,000 lbs towing…

…and the 11,000 lb limit on all G1 R1Ts, and the G2 Dual (like mine) and Quad Max R1Ts. And the expected 10,000 lb limit on the upcoming Scout.

 

[Holdmybeer]

It's apparently appealing to somebody, the EvoTrex site is ( reportedly) no longer taking pre-orders for the $159,990 model. It's booked up.

 

[PhatDaddy]

Well that was quick!

 

[Holdmybeer]

Press releases site an appeal to the younger RV buying set who want to off grid for 4-5 days. That set likewise isn't China phobic. A few years back I was shopping for a quality backpack for an extended hiking tour. At REI there were two identical Kelty backpacks, one was priced literally 3x the other. The salesperson told me they were identical in every way but one, the 3x priced model was made and sold to the US military which required it's materials be sourced in the US and the manufacture be in the US. The other which was identically made came from China.