I Hate A Thief, Especially An RVer That Steals!

[AbdRahim]

Sad thing is, one campground manager told me big DP’s get the gate code from friends and do the same thing. He live in the campground in a site, from which he can view the long open bridge that leads to the campground. According to him, they come in at 1 or 2 AM and are gone by 6 AM.

I think basic business should be arequired course in grade school. People have no idea of the difficulty of earning a dollar as a business owner.

 

["EZ"]

Sad thing is, one campground manager told me big DP’s get the gate code from friends and do the same thing. He live in the campground in a site, from which he can view the long open bridge that leads to the campground. According to him, they come in at 1 or 2 AM and are gone by 6 AM.

I think basic business should be arequired course in grade school. People have no idea of the difficulty of earning a dollar as a business owner.

It sounds like a lot of these people running these camp grounds need a little help in setting up their security measures, right? I mean I know it's a pain but how hard would it be to change the gate code once a month? Then these slime balls wouldn't be able to pass the code around to everyone in their RV club to use. Not for long anyway. The other guy talking about people staying for free because there's no drop box for payments??? How simple is that?? They are just begging for people to leave without paying! I hate a thief as much as anything I can think of but some of these camp grounds are aiding and abetting these thieves.

 

[J&JD]

I can't say I won't initially keep an eye on a fellow California camper a little closer than say for example one from Montana. I'm sure there are millions of California residents who are ashamed of what is going on. Weather and retirement isn't the only issue which is making thousands move to Florida each and every week from California, New York, and Illinois.

We can have a discussion about these stupid laws in California without being political. I'm sure if you manage a CVS or Walgreens in one of their big cities you don't see red or blue, you only see a dumb law putting you out of a job and closing your store.

No Red, any California resident who is a decent person is always welcome at my campsite. I would never consider traveling to that State again under any circumstances though.

 

[MapNerd]

Take away is don't judge a person from their license plate, good people are from all over.

That’s the truth. I personally lived in a state for 10 years and I vehemently disagreed with the side of the aisle it leaned. One of the minor reasons I moved there was to swim against their political sea. 2 years after I moved there, we got a governor whose politics I did agree with. The state house is still full of idiots though.

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

I'm just wondering if California allowing everyone to steal up to $950 dollars each time they enter a store is making their residents think they can take what they want while traveling?

Can someone explain this to me? I’m not a California resident, but a quick reading of the California Penal Code indictates that thefts under $950 from stores is “shoplifting,” a crime. A theft of any value from a non-commercial site appears to qualify as “burglary.”

Not wanting to get political here, just trying to understand how someone could walk into a store and walk out with $900 worth of merchandise without paying for it and not be charged with shoplifting.

TJ

 

[redbaron]

Can someone explain this to me? I’m not a California resident, but a quick reading of the California Penal Code indictates that thefts under $950 from stores is “shoplifting,” a crime. A theft of any value from a non-commercial site appears to qualify as “burglary.”

Not wanting to get political here, just trying to understand how someone could walk into a store and walk out with $900 worth of merchandise without paying for it and not be charged with shoplifting.

TJ

I do not know about CA, but I can tell you about Dallas, TX.

The Dallas DA decided that it was not worth the time to prosecute, arrest, and otherwise detain theft under $750.00.

Here is the exact quote from the news article:

The new district attorney in Dallas has announced his office will no longer prosecute those who steal "theft of necessary items" up to $750. ... The DA tried to defend his decision, saying prosecutors are “criminalizing poverty” by going after people who steal what he considers “personal items.”

This has caused a lot of tension with business owners, law abiding citizens, and police.

There are several cases where a shop owner decided to take matters in their own hands, and detain those that where stealing, and more than one that has used violence in protecting their personal property.

 

[Neal]

Wouldn't it be "Trespassing" more than Theft?

Regardless, I think in the scenario above take pictures, get license plates, give to the office when they open. Let them know what happened and they can decide. Should they call the poh-poh and the poh poh contact the individuals involved, I'm sure just "the call" would be enough to slap them on the wrist so that they may think twice before doing this again. I doubt anyone would prosecute anything unless it was a repeat situation where they were warned and continued to abuse the system. Just like the dog poo in campgrounds and trash in campgrounds where people know they are never coming back and will likely be out of state, all of the above know no one is going to do anything about it. Scaring the offenders is the best medicine and that's a call to from the poh poh or having them come back to the campground to pay for the night with no charges filed would work too.

 

[MapNerd]

I think if it were me, I’d have to lockup the store and just take orders online. Place your order, pay online, we’ll bag it up and you can come get it. No customers allowed in the store if stealing up to $750/per person is effectively legal.

 

[MapNerd]

Wouldn't it be "Trespassing" more than Theft?

Regardless, I think in the scenario above take pictures, get license plates, give to the office when they open. Let them know what happened and they can decide. Should they call the poh-poh and the poh poh contact the individuals involved, I'm sure just "the call" would be enough to slap them on the wrist so that they may think twice before doing this again. I doubt anyone would prosecute anything unless it was a repeat situation where they were warned and continued to abuse the system. Just like the dog poo in campgrounds and trash in campgrounds where people know they are never coming back and will likely be out of state, all of the above know no one is going to do anything about it. Scaring the offenders is the best medicine and that's a call to from the poh poh or having them come back to the campground to pay for the night with no charges filed would work too.

Yeah but then it’s whack a mole at that point. How many $750 thefts can your business afford?

 

[derek007]

There are a lot of California residents here at Glacier. I have yet to meet one that agrees with their governor or the socialism leaning views. They do often have some very foul language in regards to their governor.

Take away is don't judge a person from their license plate, good people are from all over.

I bet you did meet some that do agree with the governor. You are making this political.