LTVA set to change!!!

[Joe Hogan]

read the document posted. If it is accurate that the rate has been steady since 2008, the increase, while not popular, seems warranted.
Hopefully they accomplish all the state goals.
The basic CPI calculations show an approximately 50% devaluation of the dollar since 2008.

CPI Inflation Calculator

data.bls.gov

 

[Kevin D Pem]

read the document posted. If it is accurate that the rate has been steady since 2008, the increase, while not popular, seems warranted.
Hopefully they accomplish all the state goals.
The basic CPI calculations show an approximately 50% devaluation of the dollar since 2008.

CPI Inflation Calculator

data.bls.gov

Not going there!!!
We all know inflation comes from printing fiat!
I'll stick with what devastation It will cause.

 

[Diesel Pusher]

I did post the link to the PDF! I was wondering how you got 85 bucks? 185 to 600 sounds like more that 85. maybe I need to go back to school to learn the new math!!!

$600 / 7 (months) = $85.72

 

[Kevin D Pem]

$600 / 7 (months) = $85.72

Most only stay 5 months. look at average highs to figure why!

 

[Gilbert Stavely]

I did post the link to the PDF! I was wondering how you got 85 bucks? 185 to 600 sounds like more that 85. maybe I need to go back to school to learn the new math!!!

That 600.00 is for up to a 7 month stay

 

[Kevin D Pem]

That 600.00 is for up to a 7 month stay

I guess I'm trying to reason with the wrong crowd! I may need to rethink that issue.

Let me explain, I guess I need to!

Many of the users of the LTVA use it as a last resort.
There are widows, literally living on a widows might! Doesn't affect you, so who cares right???

There are many that lost everything in the 2008 bubble living on SSI only! That means that the proposed increase, for some means 1/7th of the meager sustenance for those 7 months will be taken from them. Many who eat beans and rice to keep from being hungry! Yes, I know many of them! You won't ever see them with a pan on a street corner, because they have to much honor to consider that!!! I don't understand someone who confesses faith, that can't let our government know they object!!! My opinion is their confession is hypocrisy! But that's just how I see things!!!

Once again that doesn't effect you, right? Even if many people in today's market are saying we are headed for worse than 2008!!!

Seems as though you don't care enough to respond to the BLM on behalf of the unfortunate! I hope for your sakes that you never need that safety net. Many There saved and invested! I'm sure they said it would not happen to them, but it did!

In the early 80s people just parked there without any fee! Many of you don't realize the fee is illegal according to the constitution, but then again many here swar a life long oath to defend that constitution, but have no idea what they swar to defend! What a sorry state of affairs that is!!!

Like I said. If you are known for the company you keep! I am questioning why I'm here!!!

 

[Rich W.]

I think it’s just an awareness thing Kevin. I doubt any ill will is intended by anyone here and there is the impact to consider. Not all LTVs are conscientious and stewardly in their approach to boondocking and my guess is that has something to do with it. It reminds me of the “anchor out” controversy 20 years ago in the bay off Sausalito. Once side said the opposition was just upset because the sailors got free use of the bay; the other side complained about the environmental impact which was real. I don’t know the issue(s) here and I understand the financial impact on those with limited resources, but I sense (hope I guess) that this is more than just a money grab.

 

[Joe Hogan]

Unfortunately it takes resources to clean up the mess left by only a few irresponsible visitors.

American national parks vandalized, ruined by visitors, could take centuries to remedy: report

Some visitors at national parks have acted unruly and disobeyed rules that have has negative consequences on the ecosystem and wildlife, according to reports.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Kevin D Pem]

Unfortunately it takes resources to clean up the mess left by only a few irresponsible visitors.

American national parks vandalized, ruined by visitors, could take centuries to remedy: report

Some visitors at national parks have acted unruly and disobeyed rules that have has negative consequences on the ecosystem and wildlife, according to reports.

www.foxnews.com

Sorry Joe! What isn't known 1)those that leave a mess will be band the next year(LTVA). 2)a fine is levied! Remember that they have the person's information.

This is nothing like the people that leave TP behind every Bush in the forest!

Remember, I live around these people! If they are using such things as an excuse, they are bald faced lies!!!

Typically long term visitors, host, haul out more than they bring in! On the other side are what is referred to as weekend warriors! They do donuts with their ATVs leaving ruts in the dirt roads. Crap behind trees and don't cover the waste. Leave piles of used TP. Beer cans, butts from their smokes, aluminum foil, and broken glass in the fire pits. Walk away from smoldering fires so those that need those wild lands, will protect the land from them!!! No, those people that so many judge as not worthy, are likely the reason the forest/BLM are never seen cleaning up the mess. Don't fool yourself!!!