FYI Poured in n 7.5 gallons of Blue DEF

[Joe Hogan]

Well this was an experience. Very slowly pouring stuff.
Gained experience and exercise. Know how if needed in an emergency situation in the future. Not interested in this method as a regular routine.

 

[Texas Clodhopper]

Exactly!

 

[J&JD]

Well this was an experience. Very slowly pouring stuff.
Gained experience and exercise. Know how if needed in an emergency situation in the future. Not interested in this method as a regular routine.

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If you get the flow going right they will empty in about 30 seconds. Still a PITA, however.

 

[Joe Hogan]

I just stuck a knife in the handle and made a small hole to get it to move along.

 

[ManyHats]

Inexpensive spouts are available that empty the container quickly, with no air lock. Mine is a Ford part.

 

[Rich W.]

Well this was an experience. Very slowly pouring stuff.
Gained experience and exercise. Know how if needed in an emergency situation in the future. Not interested in this method as a regular routine.

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I like the method because you can add at your leisure rather than repositioning at the pump and holding up truckers. Also I keep mine full so I just add a jug every thousand miles or so - usually in a CG after hours with a beverage readily available. Easy and only takes about a minute. And of course this is the only way you can verify the date and source of manufacture. I think someone (Dutch Star Don?) built a little shelf inside the door to make adding a jug easier. But alas, I’m not even really a DP owner anymore so what do I know….

I also built in my DEF tank bay so it holds 3 jugs and my sewer hose bin. Note extra spout, funnel (just in case) and refractometer at the ready.

 

[team bradfield]

I just stuck a knife in the handle and made a small hole to get it to move along.

I cut a square out high near handle with razor knife, it drains fast, when I try the truck stop pump, while repositioning, the pump times out and I have to go back into the station, PITA

 

[Rich W.]

I cut a square out high near handle with razor knife, it drains fast, when I try the truck stop pump, while repositioning, the pump times out and I have to go back into the station, PITA

Yup, no way I would deal with pump DEF unless you could fill both from the same position. Even then, you’re buying an unknown commodity for an already fragile emissions system.

 

[Rich W.]

Well this was an experience. Very slowly pouring stuff.
Gained experience and exercise. Know how if needed in an emergency situation in the future. Not interested in this method as a regular routine.

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One other thing Joe is I never have to deal with more than one jug at a time. I can see that dealing with three jugs at one time would be a chore. When I’m down 1/4 tank, I add one jug the next time it’s convenient, usually in the late afternoon at a campground after the dust settles on all the other little chores. Keeps my DEF tank full, I never have to worry about finding DEF or paying convenience store prices, and I never have to deal with more than one jug at a time. For me this is much more convenient than dealing with it at a truck stop.

 

[punkinhead]

I'm not at all squeamish about getting dirty, but truck stop DEF nozzles are beyond my threshold. I'd rather change my grandson's diaper after a blowout poop than touch a DEF nozzle covered in crystalized urine.

 

[Rich W.]

I'm not at all squeamish about getting dirty, but truck stop DEF nozzles are beyond my threshold. I'd rather change my grandson's diaper after a blowout poop than touch a DEF nozzle covered in crystalized urine.

LOL - It is messy but the urea used in DEF is manufactured synthetically with ammonia and CO2.

 

[MemoriesByTheMile]

I always use nitrile gloves when at the pumps - diesel or def. Keeps my hands clean and don’t have to smell diesel after continuing to drive after filling up.

 

[JRS]

Have always filled up at Truck Stops using the Open Roads/TSD fuel card for over 5yrs now w/o any issue. Never once filled with a 2.5gal container.

 

[Dutch Star Don]

I added a shelf to the DEF bay door, I place the box on the shelf, the hose in the hole and walk away. It's not a huge deal, but I have a terrible back and standing there holding DEF containers is not one of my favorite things to do.

 

[Rich W.]

I added a shelf to the DEF bay door, I place the box on the shelf, the hose in the hole and walk away. It's not a huge deal, but I have a terrible back and standing there holding DEF containers is not one of my favorite things to do.

Hey there you are. Was just talking about you in post five.

 

[Stuart W]

I just stuck a knife in the handle and made a small hole to get it to move along.

I also think it’s easier to handle out of the box

 

[Joe Hogan]

The DPDS does not appear to have an issue with boxed DEF fluid that was put into the system. Thank goodness.

 

[Joe Hogan]

The DPDS does not appear to have an issue with boxed DEF fluid that was put into the system. Thank goodness.

 

[Rich W.]

The DPDS does not appear to have an issue with boxed DEF fluid that was put into the system. Thank goodness.

Very unlikely that it would unless the DEF was over 18 months old, or had been stored in an area without climate control in the summer. One of the advantages of box def is that it’s not subject to contamination if the container is properly sealed. It’s important though to identify and decode the production date on the box. But after careful consideration of all the factors I’m aware of, I am firmly a “never pumper” for DEF in the coach. Seems to be fine for my Ford but I’ve had two problems with the system immediately after putting on pump DEF.

For reference on box DEF storage:

 

[FL-JOE]

Have always filled up at Truck Stops using the Open Roads/TSD fuel card for over 5yrs now w/o any issue. Never once filled with a 2.5gal container.

I'm with Ro/Joe. I carried a fuel can in my lower compartment marked "DEF". I always fueled up my 4369 at major truck stops and would fill the DEF container. My reasoning was 2 fold. I would never reposition my coach to fill DEP at the pumps and hold up commercial drivers, and I trust the quality of major truck stop bulk DEF before I did jugs from the shelves of some Walmart or other retail chain.