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MOD Replacing the Televator TV in my 2017 Newmar Ventana

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Neal

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Location
Midlothian, VA
RV Year
2017
RV Make
Newmar
RV Model
Ventana 4037
RV Length
40' 10"
Chassis
Freightliner XCR
Engine
Cummins 400 HP
TOW/TOAD
2017 Chevy Colorado
Fulltimer
No
TV installed: LG 48inch 4K

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09RMHBXYX/?tag=rvf01-20

The televator TV is IN! Was it fun? No. Was it easy? No. Did I do it myself? Yes - it is doable. Did I have to remove windows or screens? No.

Removal involves a short screwdriver and remove all of the phillips head screws Newmar used, I think it was 6. Cut the zip ties and then remove cables so as not to let them drop into the televator cabinet, not that you couldn't get them back out. Remove the power brick adhesive attached to the wall and remove the power supply brick to remain with the old TV.

The top corian piece is surprisingly floating on top of the TV and held centered by two springs attached by two phillips screws. There is also a top bracket that supports the corian, it remains in place.

Removal is not hard.

I then was happy to see the Newmar bracket is wide enough to support the hole pattern (300x200mm) for the new TV. I measured from the top bracket (hard to see in the photo) for the corian support to the top mount holes and then measured 150mm out from center left and right and drilled two holes. I then drilled two holes 200mm below those and made the lower holes large to give some wiggle room. I'll attach another picture of the mount below and you can probably see the additional holes drilled.

Getting the TV in place to get the first M6 screw inserted was not easy. I tried various supports as the TV had to be 3 inches off the bottom level. After a bit of a fight I got the M6 screw in and used a spacer about 5mm thick just for good measure. Putting the screw in the hole, adding the spacer, and then using the screw driver one handed was a treat. Tie a hand behind your back to practice!

Getting the top corian doofer put back on is a treat but there is a trick. First off for the right side you just slide the shelf towards the screw position and install the phillips head screw that attaches the spring. The other side is special...I finally figured out what Newmar did as the spring loop is wider. Install the phillips screw first and then push the corian towards it which stretches the spring on the opposite side and allows you to loop the spring end over the screw. Tighten the screw to secure the spring.

Secure wires as needed with cable ties. The HDMI cables Newmar used are very thick and the HDMI ports are on the edge so I'll have to see how that works out. I cabled tied them best I could to the televator vertical arm. The 3.5mm audio cable connected to the appropriate port, the coax was connected without the 90 degree elbow Newmar uses to improve signal. I'll also be securing cables/wires to the back of the TV using zip tie anchors:


I was going to use a slim mount which would work as Newmar pushes the TV out about the same or more than this mount would use. It may be an easier option but you still have to get your vertical orientation right for the corian shelf at the top so I elected to do some math and drill mount holes.

The pictures is AMAZING, the cable TV reception is superior to the ancient Sony Bravia, this is the same TV I installed to the exterior cabinet and you've probably heard already how much I love it including the sound. A great interior refresh at the 5 year point swapping out 6 year old TV's as the Sony's Newmar used were 2016 model year TV's.

3 down and 1 to go - the front center TV - maybe tomorrow!!

Note: LG does a great job in putting a screen protector on their screen. Samsung does not do this. I probably would screw up the TV without these screen protectors!! Still be careful but I'm glad LG does this.

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We're you able to remove TV without removing window screens and attacking from outside??
 
I was thinking of doing the same swap last year, but the tight working space stopped me. Hope you show us how to do it 👍
 
Stay tuned, I may be asking a friend to put me in a straight-jacket and escort me to a place for professional help. The old TV is off/out, for now I'm hoping I can wake up and this project will be complete. "What have I got myself into" seems to be the common question of late.

New TV on couch, hoping it morphs its way up to a mounting solution. I think I have a plan, for now I just want to go to sleep.

To be continued...

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Hey Neal, hate to be nosey, but is that tablet display at bottom right a camera feed from outside?? I have been playing with the idea of some security cameras exterior on the RV for when we are away. Curious to hear what you have done there.
 
Bill Hader Popcorn GIF by Saturday Night Live
 
The televator TV replacement is complete. The original post is updated.
 
Neal, how wide is the opening at the base? Mine is 44.75 inches.
Looks like my old TV is bigger?
 
It appears this TV is not happy with the 8000 feet of HDMI cable much less old cable running from the over driver's seat AV box to the Televator. The TV is flickering and showing snow at times when using Apple TV via HDMI. Everything else such as coax is outstanding, it's not the TV, it's just not jiving with the HDMI cable used in my coach and probably the excessive length Newmar used. My AV setup is a bit complex going through a 1 in 4 out 4K splitter. I changed the HDMI cables as I bought new 8K 48 Gbps cables just to put the latest in and still no luck.

In the end, the solution works out better and that's to put an Apple TV direct connected to the Televator TV. This gives me full 4K Dolby Vision. I was bummed that I wouldn't be able to use my home theater setup but I was wrong as the TV has audio out routed to the home theater and that works great. So I can watch my Apple TV apps such as YouTube TV, HBO, etc. in 4K and get the audio through the TV, home theater, or AirPods. Now keep in mind many of the apps I use on Apple TV "hardware" are available as apps in the TV itself and I have yet to explore those. The Apple TV hardware may not even be necessary but it's what I know for now.


So after hours beating my head against a cabinet for this saga it worked out even better in the end.

By the way, I didn't realize you could connect HDMI devices wirelessly, that was another option such as a device such as this:

 
The HDMI cable situation is going to drive me crazy over time. While I don't need it, I also don't know how DISH is affected. Regardless, I know the path from the over driver's seat AV box to the televator via the basement, under kitchen sink, and up so I'm going to run 4 x 50FT 48 Gbps HDMI cables and 1 x 50FT CAT 6 ethernet cable as I'd like to get my access point on the patio side of the coach. It's not a hard thing to do, just go from AV box down the left A-pillar into the gen bay, then into the basement and up from under the sink path. 2 will go to the televator, 2 will go to the exterior TV.
 
Follow-up: Having completed the front TV replacement (post coming next) it opened up settings in the Apple TV hardware I couldn't see before. Allowing me to change to 1080p HDR or Dolby Vision from 4K seems to resolve the issue. The long HDMI cable not rated for 4K or better is likely the issue. The pressure to replace is now less as I have it working properly again. If I want to push 4K content from the AV box then I'll need a newer cable. Otherwise I'll use the Apple TV hardware direct connected to this (televator) TV for 4K Dolby Vision. Lots of options...
 
Okay Neal, gotta ask. Why all the cords? You’re buying the latest smart TVs which means they’re wireless. You can download the apps you need, the Apple device is redundant. Whenever I mention cords my sons look at each other and laugh. Wireless is the way.
 
Okay Neal, gotta ask. Why all the cords? You’re buying the latest smart TVs which means they’re wireless. You can download the apps you need, the Apple device is redundant. Whenever I mention cords my sons look at each other and laugh. Wireless is the way.
This is a really really really good question.
  1. I want to be able to watch the front and televator TV simultaneously, sometimes I'll have both on when watching Football and sitting at the dinette working on the computer
  2. I want to keep the functionality of the coach as originally designed or the next owner is going to be majorly confused
  3. I have a nice home theater setup which they stopped installing in 2018 and later. I have a marantz 4K AV receiver, polk in ceiling speakers, polk center channel speaker, a nice subwoofer, i.e. a nice 5.1 surround system. The content has to route through the receiver to use the 5.1 surround system and output via HDMI out to all TV's
  4. I am not well versed in using the apps on the new TV's and need to get familiar with their capabilities. I typically use an attached Apple TV. This is something I have to shift my use pattern with and learn what these app rich TV's have to offer.
Now that I've determined the limits of the HDMI cables and know what setting that works I may not run new HDMI cables but we'll see. I seem to enjoy painful mods :( I have been wanting to get an ethernet cable from the AV box to the patio side basement area and that's not hard, so if I'm doing that may as well piggy back some newer HDMI cables as well. We'll see.

But again, great question, good point, it's just that my coach has a 5.1 surround sound system in it I guess. And yeah, like I said in my cord cut thread, I really don't watch much TV! Mainly YouTube and NFL.
 
I went the other way. Unplugged 3 out of the 4 TV’s. Using only the televator in the living room.
 
I went the other way. Unplugged 3 out of the 4 TV’s. Using only the televator in the living room.
Your future owners will appreciate you.
 
If cables can be neatly concealed, I'd take wired over wireless every time.
 
The more I looked at the wireless options it seemed more for computer to monitor use and not really a replacement for home theater use. I too will be sticking to cables. It seems Newmar is moving to CAT 6 / ethernet for HDMI connectivity, I'm not sure what's involved in that.
 
The more I looked at the wireless options it seemed more for computer to monitor use and not really a replacement for home theater use. I too will be sticking to cables. It seems Newmar is moving to CAT 6 / ethernet for HDMI connectivity, I'm not sure what's involved in that.
Cat6 to HDMI adapters are very common and used in high end video applications, especially where distance is an issu. One end is an injector, the other a receiver. Injector needs power and will come with a small AC adapter. Amazon has them and dozens of mfg's available to choose from. Definitely not a new technology and nothing to be concerned with performance wise. Probably easier running multiple Cat5/6 lines then HDMI anyways in the cramped conditions in a coach.
 

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