Smoothest Trailer to tow

[Kevin D Pem]

You best consult AI before posting. This is exactly the problem we are having in these discussions. The resident pundits immediately type stuff originating from their restricted fund of knowledge and experience. Most often before I type anything these days I test my knowledge and memory with AI. Our discussions would be much more helpful to other people if everyone did the same. None of us are as smart as the collective wisdom of many.

My F-150 PowerBoost is a 7,350 lb truck.

From AI. I have never seen a 7,400 PowerBoost so AI may have this wrong but close.

The 2024–2025 Ford F-150 PowerBoost (hybrid) typically has a Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) of 7,350 to 7,400 lbs. As the heaviest F-150 configuration, its curb weight is approximately 5,500+ lbs, leaving a payload capacity around 1,700–1,800 lbs. Always check the door jamb sticker for exact ratings.

Key Weight Specs for PowerBoost:

• GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating): Generally 7,350–7,400 lbs.
• Curb Weight: ~5,517–5,540+ lbs (varies by trim/options).
• Payload Capacity: Max is ~1,735–1,830 lbs.
• Towing Capacity: Up to 12,700 lbs.

I just checked the notifications on My phone after My self imposed time limit here,but had to extend that time. My notification From a RAM forum was there so I opened it up. Someone else that believes you can't go wrong using AI cut and pasted a Google AI response page

Honestly, I got a kick out of the fine print at the bottom of the response. This is what it says.


AI can make mistakes so double-check responses

What I found very interesting is Google was very careful to put that statement in it's own un-copyable container on the web page.

So basically folks! Google admits that there AI engine is no better than a forum.

The other thing I found interesting was the data that it offered up was a sales release. That proves again that slick salesman are leveraging AI to hood wink people using AI be wary.

 

[turbopilot]

So basically folks! Google admits that there AI engine is no better than a forum.

Yes, and the contrast is so amazing because humans posting on this forum always get it right.

Of course AI gets it wrong sometimes because it is harvesting the collective wisdom and knowledge of humans posting across the internet. What amazes me is how often it finds human errors and fixes them.

You can test this real time. Create a website somewhere with information and knowledge very unique to something you know well but is unlikely to appear anywhere else on the web. Then let it sit a couple of weeks and let the bots index the site. After that ask AI a question about some knowledge unique to you on that page. Watch how it summarizes your words. Sometimes it is word for word other times not.

Both Google Gemini and Grok regularly index RVForums. All of our posts are being digested by these bots every day. That is why it is so important to get it right when we post. Fact check your posts otherwise you contaminate the wisdom and knowledge represented here.

 

[team bradfield]

Wow, I think Turbo is AI

 

[Holdmybeer]

For one, all the LLM's harvest data from the internet. Otherwise, Neural Network/ LLM's work by assigning weights to data learned by backpropagation and then applied via gradient descent before it becomes output. You can post that 2+2=5 all day on here or for example if it were posted that a low profile trailer without any drive system engaged other than that on the tow vehicle reduced the tow vehicle's mileage by just 10%, that data would fortunately be weighted so low as to never become output.

 

[Neal]

I deleted the posts at the request of a user report. It's irrelevant, stay on topic and move on.

Thank you.

 

[RobertE]

It was informative and created food for thought but like a lot of internet discussions, it drifts from the original question, "What models pull pretty smooth up to 65-70 MPH without fishtailing?"

I was looking for something like my personal examples: we moved from Pennsylvania to Florida so I got first hand experience on how well specific trailers work in extended use moving our household and hobby projects. We have a 2008 G&G Trailer (I think made in Georgia) 7000 gross I bought new in 2008 and I like it better every time I use it. 2 trips were hauling cars, always loaded down and you hardly know it is back there. You want a great utility trailer, consider a G&G. We have a 7 X 12 or 14 Wells Cargo 3500 gross enclosed and it is nearly as well behaved as the G&G. It is a keeper. We have a Diamond 24' 9990 gross enclosed that works okay but you need to stay very alert at speed. I like it but if it is something long distance that I can use the G&G, I will take it over the Diamond.

I guess I was thinking similar with this post. People would respond like "I have a Jayco model ___ and it pulls straight and great." "I have a brand X and it brings a lot of white knuckle driving with it." etc.

This thread shows that many people have different opinions about trailer and tow vehicle setup and it is good reading from that standpoint.

You see what I have. I pull it with an F150. It does great. Does that answer you're question? Probably not unless you're looking to buy a Grand Design MKE and drive the same truck.

You're going to have a hard time finding one that doesn't pull well (with the correct tow vehicle) b/c the RV manufacturers have this all figured out with regards to weight distribution, location of water tanks, etc. As I already stated, you're not pulling a trailer loaded with cargo like you describe. It's just the trailer plus whatever stuff you've got inside.

You already know this, but what's most important is staying well withing the mfg'er recommended loads. I divide them by 2 and use this as the maximum over the road towing weight.

Sorry but you're expecting an answer you're not going to get other than what I gave you.

 

[Holdmybeer]

A good guideline for RV'g, as it is in Sailing, is never exceed 80% of your capability. If you can tow 8k keep at 6.4k or below.