That's Insane

[fishslayer]

You aren't living in CO. I know that. I can tell by your POV on what it's like in CO. It's the same with most everyone--we tend to judge other areas by our own area and/or information given to us by others, say someone doing videos of RV living in CO or fishing or tourism boards, tv commmercials.

I'm telling you (and others) what it's actually like there. I lived there for a very long time and fled before it got all the worse. I saw which direction it was going...and I was right.

Take some time off and bring your boat to CO. Spend a month there so you can go boating in different areas. Then post your experiences about it here for me and others to read.

BTW, if you tear down the fence on someone elses property like you mentioned, you'll get arrested and wind up in court. Wind up 10 feet on someone elses property during hunting season? Big fines. Can lose your rifle and even vehicle. Think I'm joking? Do a search for "corner crossing in wyoming".

I just report the news, the events on the ground. I'll leave the fluff, fantasies and commercials to others.

Thats why i live here and not there..its freedom. No one owns water..you put a fence in waterway, we tear it out and you will get fined not us. Navigable waters cannot be obstructed

 

[Rosy]

I was talking to a guy in Aurora (Denver suburb, not the one in Illinois) last year. Said he was born and raised there. Appeared to be maybe 40 years old. In the conversation I mentioned how the low water table and lack of water in the foreseeable future was part of the reason I would not be moving back to Colorado. He was taken aback. Denied there was any water shortage and even got a little offended that I thought they were running short of water. Bet money that guy owned a boat. And probably a jet ski too.

I know a guy who lives in Colorado and loves whitewater rafting. He's been complaining about low water levels for a while now.

 

[sanda]

since they legalized medical, then recreational reefer in CO, it's safe to assume most everything is reefed in CO. High levels of stupid is a great indicator of being reefed.

We have become another California. I would move but our family and friends are here. As a retired dam guy I keep up with the water conditions in Colorado as well as downstream states. Arizona, California and Nevada may also lose their ability to generate power this summer due to the low reservoirs.

 

[TR25]

I was talking to a guy in Aurora (Denver suburb, not the one in Illinois) last year. Denied there was any water shortage and even got a little offended that I thought they were running short of water.

No telling with people. Some people like different things than others. Some people's normal is different than others too. Like I said, I'm not into lines or crowds. I take what an individual says with a grain of salt, especially if there's an emotional component/reaction to it. If it's in person, I can discuss whatever it is more in depth if I care enough.

The moving of the water from the reserviors down to deeper ones is being done now. it's at 6% of the median. The front range (denver met) will get their water as they run the entire state. If they'd put a cap on growth via permitting, they'd not have their insatiable need for water....but we know how that goes.

One of the things I'd like to see is the price of beef come crashing down. Ranchers in WY are selling off their cattle in the middle of calving season due to it being too expensive to feed/water them. This is extreme as now is when their herd grows. So, with all this beef coming into the pipeline, especially at an unexpected time, will the price of beef fall due to excess supply?
Something tells me conagra/monfort says......"nah".

 

[Holdmybeer]

No telling with people. Some people like different things than others. Some people's normal is different than others too. Like I said, I'm not into lines or crowds. I take what an individual says with a grain of salt, especially if there's an emotional component/reaction to it. If it's in person, I can discuss whatever it is more in depth if I care enough.

The moving of the water from the reserviors down to deeper ones is being done now. it's at 6% of the median. The front range (denver met) will get their water as they run the entire state. If they'd put a cap on growth via permitting, they'd not have their insatiable need for water....but we know how that goes.

One of the things I'd like to see is the price of beef come crashing down. Ranchers in WY are selling off their cattle in the middle of calving season due to it being too expensive to feed/water them. This is extreme as now is when their herd grows. So, with all this beef coming into the pipeline, especially at an unexpected time, will the price of beef fall due to excess supply?
Something tells me conagra/monfort says......"nah".

I checked, Wyoming contributes a whopping 1.2-1.5% to total US beef production. I'm no Adam Smith but I wouldn't be expecting a noticeable price fluctuation if Wyoming even suddenly banned cows.

 

[TR25]

I checked, Wyoming contributes a whopping 1.2-1.5% to total US beef production.

That shows how sh*tty the land is out west. Takes beaucoup land to support livestock. 5 acres in the plains of CO can't support a single horse. There's a reason why ranches out west (western tx) are a few thousand acres.

I have a butcher aquaintence who prides himself on selling CO beef. I don't have the heart to tell him it's nebraska beef that's finished in CO feed lots.

Importation of beef/meat is also a consideration.

Either way, I've not found any economic justification fo the skyrocketing beef pricing other than "because they can", aka the vertical integration of the supply chain from feed lots to grocery shelves.
Why hasn't chicken and pork also skyrocketed in price? I can get marinaded pork tenderloins for $3.99lb. A beef ribeye is now what, $20/lb?