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Got it. Veering back on topic, some more benefits to buying from a dealer are that they usually have a significant margin so they can negotiate more. They also have no emotional investment in the coach - its just a number, they have no loan to pay off driving the bottom line, and they typically pay far below “book value” when they take RVs in on trade. So they can usually move more on the price. Also they can offer financing and a warranty if you want or need either, and many have a decent shop on site so they can fix things and/or provide upgrades before the deal closes.
 
Thx for the help. I noticed u have a Georgetown 5 series. We're looking to get a 31L anything good or bad u can tell us about Forest River would be greatly appreciated. The for ur help.
Yep, a 2017 31R5. Same as the L5, but with a slight change in the interior. The L5 (which I initially liked better) has the TV and couch aft of the dinette.
The pleather sucks. We had the driver and navigator seat recovered in cloth. It cost us $1200 in Pensacola, FL. We have replaced both the sleeper sofa and dinette because a) both were uncomfortable and b) they were kinda ugly. We replaced with a big chair from Rooms to go and table and chairs from an unfinished furniture store. It’s only the wife and I, no additional people ever, so losing the sleeping area is not an issue.The windshield wiper assembly had a bearing go bad and needed to be replaced. Weird item to go bad.
Had to put a new thermistor in the fridge and I added exterior fans to the back of the fridge.
No major issues at all. The coach has exceeded all of my expectations and has never let us down.
 

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I've been shopping for a while. For us, this is the next step beyond tent camping and a TT will take a concerted effort to use 6 times a year. For that reason we're looking at a TT that will sleep 6 and 8 in a pinch that has an empty weight of <4500lbs. It's a tall order but there are units that fit the bill, from private sellers and dealerships. I tend to shop A LOT before buying so I do as much research as possible before taking a look especially at a private sale. I want to spend as little of a person's time as possible with a private sale vs. a dealership as the sales folks at the dealership are already there specifically to cater to those shopping.

The two big chains near us are Ultimate RV & Camping World. I looked a several units at CW and dealt with two different sales people (I did ask for the first person we saw on our 2nd trip but they weren't available). I liked how everything was organized neatly, was clean and both lots were paved. Both sales folks did a good job of communicating during and after shopping with no pushy sales tactics. Ultimate RV was the opposite, the place was a dirty, unorganized mess with gravel and mud constituting most of their lot. The first sales guy showed me stuff too heavy for me to pull after I gave him very clear specs. He then went on telling me one more sale and he "earns" a vacation trip his daughter is really looking forward to. That was more that a little scuzzy to me. The second visit to Ultimate RV, I was looking specifically at a used (& overpriced) hybrid they had. The sales woman was pleasant and I also let her know my specs, she was much better at showing me a few other units that I could actually pull. After we sat down, it turned to a poo show, very pushy sales tactics and being used I certainly wanted a full inspection prior to anything resembling a commitment. She asked me what my (non-contingent) buy it now price was and wanted me to sign something to take to her sales manager. That didn't happen and I let her know that based on what I saw, they would need to pay me $500 to haul it away in the event there were serious problems. BTW, this was something they hadn't yet taken the time to inspect or clean prior to shoving it onto the sales dirt. Then comes the sales manager, at this point I'm not wasting their time, they're wasting mine. Got the whole spiel about not knowing about what I really wanted without diving in and shopping perpetually means I'll never actually find something. I did appreciate his insight about the last part but it served only to reaffirm, I'll make a solid investment vs. an implusive mistake at least 100 times out of 100.

Both have their pluses and minuses. If you're more indepentant and able to identify and deal with issues, a private sale can save much $$. A dealership will supposedly check everything out and give you a better idea of the condition of what you're purchasing. Some will stand behind it, some will say they will then fail. If you go the dealership route, hopefully you'll not have to find out.
 
I've been shopping for a while. For us, this is the next step beyond tent camping and a TT will take a concerted effort to use 6 times a year. For that reason we're looking at a TT that will sleep 6 and 8 in a pinch that has an empty weight of <4500lbs. It's a tall order but there are units that fit the bill, from private sellers and dealerships. I tend to shop A LOT before buying so I do as much research as possible before taking a look especially at a private sale. I want to spend as little of a person's time as possible with a private sale vs. a dealership as the sales folks at the dealership are already there specifically to cater to those shopping.

The two big chains near us are Ultimate RV & Camping World. I looked a several units at CW and dealt with two different sales people (I did ask for the first person we saw on our 2nd trip but they weren't available). I liked how everything was organized neatly, was clean and both lots were paved. Both sales folks did a good job of communicating during and after shopping with no pushy sales tactics. Ultimate RV was the opposite, the place was a dirty, unorganized mess with gravel and mud constituting most of their lot. The first sales guy showed me stuff too heavy for me to pull after I gave him very clear specs. He then went on telling me one more sale and he "earns" a vacation trip his daughter is really looking forward to. That was more that a little scuzzy to me. The second visit to Ultimate RV, I was looking specifically at a used (& overpriced) hybrid they had. The sales woman was pleasant and I also let her know my specs, she was much better at showing me a few other units that I could actually pull. After we sat down, it turned to a poo show, very pushy sales tactics and being used I certainly wanted a full inspection prior to anything resembling a commitment. She asked me what my (non-contingent) buy it now price was and wanted me to sign something to take to her sales manager. That didn't happen and I let her know that based on what I saw, they would need to pay me $500 to haul it away in the event there were serious problems. BTW, this was something they hadn't yet taken the time to inspect or clean prior to shoving it onto the sales dirt. Then comes the sales manager, at this point I'm not wasting their time, they're wasting mine. Got the whole spiel about not knowing about what I really wanted without diving in and shopping perpetually means I'll never actually find something. I did appreciate his insight about the last part but it served only to reaffirm, I'll make a solid investment vs. an implusive mistake at least 100 times out of 100.

Both have their pluses and minuses. If you're more indepentant and able to identify and deal with issues, a private sale can save much $$. A dealership will supposedly check everything out and give you a better idea of the condition of what you're purchasing. Some will stand behind it, some will say they will then fail. If you go the dealership route, hopefully you'll not have to find out.
Great story and advice. Like to buy private but I haven't come up with many good sites, any advice on that ? Thx
 
Yep, a 2017 31R5. Same as the L5, but with a slight change in the interior. The L5 (which I initially liked better) has the TV and couch aft of the dinette.
The pleather sucks. We had the driver and navigator seat recovered in cloth. It cost us $1200 in Pensacola, FL. We have replaced both the sleeper sofa and dinette because a) both were uncomfortable and b) they were kinda ugly. We replaced with a big chair from Rooms to go and table and chairs from an unfinished furniture store. It’s only the wife and I, no additional people ever, so losing the sleeping area is not an issue.The windshield wiper assembly had a bearing go bad and needed to be replaced. Weird item to go bad.
Had to put a new thermistor in the fridge and I added exterior fans to the back of the fridge.
No major issues at all. The coach has exceeded all of my expectations and has never let us down.
I really like the modifications you made. It's reassuring to hear that ur very satisfied with Forest River. How do u feel about the V10 ?
 
Just completed an inspection this week with a certified inspector in AZ. Two man team and they were onsite with the RV for 8.5 hours, 122 page report with pics. It is worth the expense to know what you are getting yourself into, and I am much more confident in my soon to be purchase.
How much did an intense inspection like that cost ?
 
I really like the modifications you made. It's reassuring to hear that ur very satisfied with Forest River. How do u feel about the V10 ?
I have no complaints about the engine, either. I did add a tuner to help keep the RPMs down a little bit and am happy with the power and economy.
We tow a 14’ box trailer with two road bikes in it, around 3500 lbs tow weight and have had no issues going up or down hills. On the 2-lane roads, we average about 7 mpg, 6 in the interstate.
 
How much did an intense inspection like that cost ?
The one we had done on our new Superstar last December was right around $1500.

About the same depth of reporting and time required that Scott mentioned.

We used a husband and wife that are both master certified inspectors.
 
Great story and advice. Like to buy private but I haven't come up with many good sites, any advice on that ? Thx
It seems like 98% of what I see is on FB marketplace with the other 2% being on craigslist. I'm not seeking anything on rvtrader or the like so I can't speak to what they might offer.
 
Great story and advice. Like to buy private but I haven't come up with many good sites, any advice on that ? Thx
We found ours on Marketplace.
 
My inspection came to just under 1K, and included some fluid analysis, I should have that back this week
 
My inspection came to just under 1K, and included some fluid analysis, I should have that back this week
Just curious about what you are looking at for a replacement?
 
Not quite finalized but looking at a pre def King Aire.
 
Is it normal that a vin# comes up 2021 but the RV is being sold as a 2022 ? I was told the vin goes according to when the chassis is built, is that just bull ? Is this really a 2021 ?
 
Yes that’s normal and its also quite common for the chassis to be one modle year older. I had a 2010 Bay Star that was on a 2008 chassis. My 2016 Ventana is on a 2015 chassis. But its titled based on the model year of the coach. Look at the title to determine the model year.
 

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