2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon TOAD

[Gizmo]

Get the 8.4 screen, totally worth it for the camera view alone.....in my opinion

We waiting for the ice to melt and we are going down to order a new 2020 Rubicon. After test driving the Sahara and Rubicon back to back, I was surprised how much quieter the Rubicon was over the Sahara. A little research I found at the 8.4 Screen with GPS has 'Noise Canceling Technology". That is not found on the 7-inch screen. That explains it and yes we changing our order to include the 8.4 screens.

 

[Neal]

I tinkered with the web site to config a Rubicon. Some things I'm not sure the difference on (tires, engine, transmission, whatever, etc. etc.) but just tinkering. What would you suggest different?

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[Gizmo]

Just some comments..

You have the standard 6-speed select and not the Automatic
You didn't select a top
Tres - First and third options are basically the same tire expect the OWL has raised white lettering. The center section is a mud tire with an aggressive tread.
Saftey packages are personnel preference I selected both.
On the engine, if you select with eTroque you getting the setup in the link below. I have not heard any terrible about the setup but new and have a wait and see type of person.

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[Neal]

The link should take you to my options. I did choose the Automatic, and it's required for the remote engine start. See if clicking the link vs. the PDF shows better.

 

[Tip&Tina]

We purchased a Jeep JL in August 2018; it was one of the first ones available in our area and we were really wanting a Wrangler to tow. We had been going to CGs for a year with no toad-it sucked.

We got a 2-door, soft top. We ended up taking out the back seat; it's stored in the S&B basement until we sell the house. At least I can go to the store and put groceries in the back now.

Overall, it was cheap. I would have preferred an upgrade to any model rather than what we have; we added running boards (yes, it didn't even have those! ?), added the Rock Hard tow bumper, all the tow equipment etc. Overall, between all the upgrades, we are in another $7000.00!

We looked at upgrading the tires to what a Sahara or Rubicon come with and that's another $5-7k! ?

We're now talking about getting a 4-door, hard top....live and learn. It's only dollars, right? ? ?

FYI, with the automatic trans: putting it into neutral for towing is HARD! I still can't muscle through it, thehusband does that and I put in the brake {Blue Ox} because its so small. Manual transmission would be so much easier.

 

[Gizmo]

On upgrading tires, you need to watch Craigs List. I have seen Sahara and Rubicon tires and rims for around 1,000 bucks. These guys buy these drive them for few weeks that put larger tires/rims on them.

 

[Tip&Tina]

Thanks Gizmo! Those would be Ginormous compared to what we have! Ours are the baby ones that look silly! We need the big ones!

 

[Gizmo]

Thanks Gizmo! Those would be Ginormous compared to what we have! Ours are the baby ones that look silly! We need the big ones!

Here is a quick example in our area.

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[Jim]

I don't know squat about the JL, but assuming they followed some of the same drivline principles of the JK, you'll need to keep the following in mind. When upgrading wheels/tires, the gear ration of the Sport is (I think) 3.45. So upgrading to 35's will take its toll. Automatic transmissions will do better, but on hills you're going to feel the pain.

Keep them at 33's and you'll do well. Going to 35's and you may want to consider a gear change to 4.10. Going above 35's, like to 37's and you'll want to go 4.88's.

You guys in Florida will probably be fine regardless of what you do, but if there are grades to be considered, you need to gear your Jeep accordingly.

 

[Stuart W]

Thank you Turbo for the use of your picture.
Here is an illustration of the differences in the two types of tow mounting points

 

[Gizmo]

Yep, the BlueOx does hang down with lot stuff showing but there is a third setup that lot cleaner than the BlueOx and made by Roadmaster. I couldn't find towing loops that you could install on factory steel bumper only on aftermarket bumpers. Being mounted below the bumper I understand the towbar is perfectly level.

 

[Gizmo]

I bet Turbo tow bar sets very close to level when hooked up the coach. Look how much higher the spots you have marked for tow rings and I think your tow bar is going more than three inches higher and you will have to use an adapter on the coach side to get it level. Maybe Turbo can comment on if his tow bar is level or not.

 

[turbopilot]

I bet Turbo tow bar sets very close to level when hooked up the coach. Look how much higher the spots you have marked for tow rings and I think your tow bar is going more than three inches higher and you will have to use an adapter on the coach side to get it level. Maybe Turbo can comment on if his tow bar is level or not.

Yes, you want it level or TOAD slightly lower. Sweet spot I have heard is TOAD zero to -3 inches lower. This is my JK Wrangler, same for JL.

 

[Gizmo]

Yes, you want it level or TOAD slightly lower. Sweet spot I have heard is TOAD zero to -3 degrees lower. This is my JK Wrangler, same for JL.

Is that Rubicon? I think the Rubicon sets 3 to 4 inches higher so even with the mounts below the bumper I still may need an adapter on the coach side to get the towbar within specs. My BlueOx tow bar says +-3 inches and not degrees.

 

[turbopilot]

Is that Rubicon? I think the Rubicon sets 3 to 4 inches higher so even with the mounts below the bumper I still may need an adapter on the coach side to get the towbar within specs. My BlueOx tow bar says +-3 inches and not degrees.

Sorry I meant inches not degrees. Post corrected. My 2020 Rubicon Blue Ox baseplate lugs are exactly 17" off the ground. The Blue Ox tow bar center bolt is exactly 19" off the ground (airbags inflated). So the 2020 Wrangler Rubicon is 2" lower than the tow bar. That is near perfect. For hard/panic breaking it is best to have TOAD slightly lower than tow bar that way the TOAD will tend to dive under the coach attachment not over.

 

[Stuart W]

Came across these pics of the 2017 and 2020 for comparison

 

[Cardiff RV]

This was a great thread and a good read. We are ordering a 2021 Wrangler and need to set it up for towing so will be coming back here for more info and guidance. Hopefully, you guys can help me figure out the right setup we need.

I also have this thread going with a question I wonder if anyone has experienced? It's in regards to the Advanced Saftey Group and towing. Jeep Wrangler and Issues with Advanced Safety Group

 

[Gizmo]

Here is some info I tried to find when I was looking at the aftermarket bumper. Looking at the second photo and the tow mounts were low on the bumper I didn't I thought I would have a level tow bar but it ended up being 6 inches high on the Jeep side. This is a 2020 stock Rubicon and Rock Hard Bumper. I had a Road Master baseplate on my Jeep prior and the bar was level.

 

[Long Spur]

Sorry for a technical question with my first post ... but as the new owner of a 2015 Essex , I am exploring my Toad options, and have a strong preference for the 2021 JEEP Rubicon 4Dr. My coach came with a Blue Ox tow bar and a Brakebuddy Vantage Select B system (with remote). I plan on an aftermarket bumper /winch set up with the D-ring style hook ups (and adaptors) for the tow bar, but am wondering about the optimum brake control options. It does not seem obvious to me .... so I have to ask - what brake system is being used with the OP's Wrangler tow set up in this thread?

Will my Brakebuddy work? or should I upgrade it?
Note: I realize I will need to add in an emergency disconnect switch.

Thanks,
Mike

 

[NWIP]

I would look at the Air Force brake system.