New Tiffin 2021 Pandemic 33AA

[Headhunter]

Hi Guys:

Well my new 2021 Tiffin 33 AA arrived from Red Bay on Monday yesterday. My salesman was off today so I just swung by for a quick look see. He told me that the coach has not been gone over by service yet and it is just the way it arrived from Tiffin.

I was anxious to see just how good or bad, a new coach arrived, especially being built during pandemic times, and driving almost 1000 miles to the dealer destination.

I didn't get a chance to test drive it because my salesman wasn't there. But the wife and I spent over 2.5 hrs going over the paint finish, the wood work, the tile work, all lower bay doors, working all the shades, testing cabinets and making sure ALL the options we ordered were there.

We opted for the dark Mocha cabinets with the white Articulo white floor heated tile floor tile. We did the one in urban putty back splash and Cocoon color Ultra Leather. The interior is very striking. The outside coach color is Rustic Canyon.

Remember we were looking at just the finish and fit and some function of the interior and exterior.

1. The front lower bay door has to be adjusted, a little off.
2. About a one inch rip in wall paper near driver window.
3. Two loose USB ports.
4. Couple pulls in fabric in one kitchen chair.
5. Rubber gasket sticking a bit on DS slide out.

Duhhhh that was it. Things we special ordered, queen size bed, heated floors, three solar panels, Girard Awnings, stacked washer & dryer, wifi ranger, exterior slide out tray and more are all there and accounted for.

Remember I did not power the slides, or test drive the coach. All the remotes and other stuff is still in boxes in the bays of the coach.

Really like the interior color combination. Tiffin discontinued the Mocha color cabinets in 2021. Don't know why they did but I really like them. The new breakfast bar with the Televator is a hoot.

I had a 2019 Open Road Tiffin 32SA that was loaded. Something to note. My 32SA had Flexsteel furniture. It was nice, but the new coach ultra leather furniture seems to be a better quality. I don't know who is making it. It is heavier and thicker than my old coach. The driver and Passenger seats are head and shoulders better than my old units. You notice the difference as soon as you sit in them. The movable recliner is solid, and it is heavy to move, a good thing.

Well that's about it for now. When I do the full PDI I will let you know how I make out.

Regards

PAM aka HeadHunter

 

[Jim]

Pictures or it didn't happen.

 

[Headhunter]

Hi Jim:

Yeah I will take some pics when I pick it up on the 18th. Having a Safe-T-Plus installed, snap pads, and conversion on Jeep from Demco Stay & Play to Airforce 1 auxiliary braking system.

Jim P.

 

[Alex&Teresa]

We are anxiously awaiting arrival of our 2022 Allegro Open Road 36 LA. We were disappointed that they discontinued the lighter color leather so we went with the Cocoon color as well with Amber Glazed cabinets. Supposed to arrive 8/12. Glad to hear that quality levels are still pretty high.

 

[Headhunter]

We are anxiously awaiting arrival of our 2022 Allegro Open Road 36 LA. We were disappointed that they discontinued the lighter color leather so we went with the Cocoon color as well with Amber Glazed cabinets. Supposed to arrive 8/12. Glad to hear that quality levels are still pretty high.

Hi Alex & Teresa

I had the lighter color leather in our first coach, that's why we went with the Cocoon color in this one. I am sure I will find some faults when I start running the coach. I am heading back down this Tuesday to drop off the Jeep. I will play around in the coach while I wait for Jeep.

Jim P.

 

[AbdRahim]

Congratulations new owners. Great coaches. Enjoy.

 

[NatPutt]

Hi Guys:

Well my new 2021 Tiffin 33 AA arrived from Red Bay on Monday yesterday. My salesman was off today so I just swung by for a quick look see. He told me that the coach has not been gone over by service yet and it is just the way it arrived from Tiffin.

I was anxious to see just how good or bad, a new coach arrived, especially being built during pandemic times, and driving almost 1000 miles to the dealer destination.

I didn't get a chance to test drive it because my salesman wasn't there. But the wife and I spent over 2.5 hrs going over the paint finish, the wood work, the tile work, all lower bay doors, working all the shades, testing cabinets and making sure ALL the options we ordered were there.

We opted for the dark Mocha cabinets with the white Articulo white floor heated tile floor tile. We did the one in urban putty back splash and Cocoon color Ultra Leather. The interior is very striking. The outside coach color is Rustic Canyon.

Remember we were looking at just the finish and fit and some function of the interior and exterior.

1. The front lower bay door has to be adjusted, a little off.
2. About a one inch rip in wall paper near driver window.
3. Two loose USB ports.
4. Couple pulls in fabric in one kitchen chair.
5. Rubber gasket sticking a bit on DS slide out.

Duhhhh that was it. Things we special ordered, queen size bed, heated floors, three solar panels, Girard Awnings, stacked washer & dryer, wifi ranger, exterior slide out tray and more are all there and accounted for.

Remember I did not power the slides, or test drive the coach. All the remotes and other stuff is still in boxes in the bays of the coach.

Really like the interior color combination. Tiffin discontinued the Mocha color cabinets in 2021. Don't know why they did but I really like them. The new breakfast bar with the Televator is a hoot.

I had a 2019 Open Road Tiffin 32SA that was loaded. Something to note. My 32SA had Flexsteel furniture. It was nice, but the new coach ultra leather furniture seems to be a better quality. I don't know who is making it. It is heavier and thicker than my old coach. The driver and Passenger seats are head and shoulders better than my old units. You notice the difference as soon as you sit in them. The movable recliner is solid, and it is heavy to move, a good thing.

Well that's about it for now. When I do the full PDI I will let you know how I make out.

Regards

PAM aka HeadHunter

We have a 2019 Phaeton and looked at your color combo…I loved it but it was not available on the used market when we wanted to buy. I agree it is stunning! Congrats. I have to look up the breakfast televator?!

 

[Headhunter]

Well we picked up our coach last Friday. I sort of rushed the PDI. Unfortunately I knew more than the guy that was giving the PDI of the coach. I asked three different questions and he couldn't answer them . He had to leave and get help. Yeah well no big deal I knew what I was looking for. But they did correct about three or four items I requested before I picked it from my previous visit. I am missing the screen to the front door, go figure. Naturally they ordered it for me.

I drove the new Tiffin 33 AA home for 145 miles. I had my 2017 Jeep Sahara 4 door in tow. I had the dealership install a Safety Plus Stabilizer, and ordered me a set of snap pads that I installed myself when I got home.

Well for the past four days I have been testing everything. Slides, HWH Jacks, Fridge, Inverter, AC, Radio & Naviation setup, Solar Panels, Fit & Finish, cabinets, toilet, shower & sinks, generator, vacuum, lights, stereo, 4 TV's, sound system, Digital dash, & more. The only thing I came up with is the space is a bit excessive on my one bay door at the hinges underneath the drivers window. Maybe by 1/4 in. Yeah well I can live with that. I did notice on my Spydex Control panel that my generator was showing 762 Hrs on it. ???? How can that be, I checked the actual hrs on the generator itself and it said 16 hrs. Yeah well. LOL

My coach was throwing the excessive tire pressure codes for the TPMS before I picked it up. But my dealership sent it to Freight Liner and they re-flashed a sensor and everything is good, They set the tire pressure to 105 lbs all the way around. I will be getting the coach weighed and probably adjust the tire pressure accordingly. But the coach road really well on the way home.

I even got my crawler and and went underneath the coach to check everything out on the underside. Especially the installation of the Safety Plus Steering Stabilizer. I watched the installation of one on my previous coach and was well aware of what was needed. So far so good.

I will be taking our coach for a couple of days dry camping at the Hershey RV Show, then we will shoot down to Gettysburg for another three days of camping.

I am sure a couple of things will pop up on our maiden voyage. But so far I am impressed. Pandemic coach is looking really good. I really love the dark Mocha cabinets, with the white tile floor, and light colored counter tops.

JCP

 

[High Desert]

Interesting read. We just traded our 2019 32SA in and got a 2017 Allegro Red 33AA. Night and day difference between the two units. Ours is pretty well optioned out, but no Aqua Hot, which is fine with me. It actually has more inside storage than the 32SA as we just finished loading it today. Tomorrow is the challenge, as I start loading the “bay”, as there is really only the slide tray and a few other cubbyholes. Guess I’ll figure out real quick what I really need vs nice to have,or just in Case.

 

[Headhunter]

Hi HD: You hit the nail on the head. You really only have the big slide out tray for major storage on the Red 33AA. I am now using bungee cords to hold down the stuff from shifting around. I all ready pulled out my Solar Wires for remote controller because a chair shifted, when I pulled out tray it pulled out the wires. Also be carefull of screws sticking out underneath of the sliding tray holding down plastic floor tray cover. Don't know if they did that on your year coach.

I am using all the other cubby holes to store some stuff in. The chassis battery compartment has room in the front for small items. The rear bay on drivers side where you access the air cleaner for the dealer is another one I stuck stuff in.

The only real way to test all the systems is to go camping for at least a few days. We just finished a 6 day camping trip. We boondocked for two days, and set up in Gettysburg for four days. I have some some things that have to be taken care of. I dropped of the coach at Stoltzfus RV for some fixes. It beats driving 1000 mile to Red Bay for service.

Like you I voted for no with that aqua hot setup. But I do have the Solar Panels, that don't work yet LOL, the heated floors, digital dash, WIFI ranger, and new to us washer & dryer. My wife absolutely loves them and the heated floors. I also opted for propane for gas stove and oven instead of all electric coach.

Let us know how you make out on your maiden voyage with your new coach.

Regards Jim P.

 

[High Desert]

HH - backed up the truck to the Red this morning and stood there for a moment looking at what I had and the one slide tray and asking myself “what am I going to leave sitting in the driveway”? Surprisingly, I got everything loaded except the Weber grill cart. Just no where to put it that won’t affect the slide tray moving back and forth. I did use two large clear containers on the right side as it had just enough clearance and smaller containers that allowed some vertical storage. Fortunately, I did not find any screws protruding on the slide tray to hurt myself on (I’m prone to doing dumb things, sometimes ?. Maybe tomorrow off to the scales and see where I am and then tweak tire pressure before I put my tire monitors on. Then, off to the coast for a couple of days for a shakedown trip.

 

[Headhunter]

HH - backed up the truck to the Red this morning and stood there for a moment looking at what I had and the one slide tray and asking myself “what am I going to leave sitting in the driveway”? Surprisingly, I got everything loaded except the Weber grill cart. Just no where to put it that won’t affect the slide tray moving back and forth. I did use two large clear containers on the right side as it had just enough clearance and smaller containers that allowed some vertical storage. Fortunately, I did not find any screws protruding on the slide tray to hurt myself on (I’m prone to doing dumb things, sometimes ?. Maybe tomorrow off to the scales and see where I am and then tweak tire pressure before I put my tire monitors on. Then, off to the coast for a couple of days for a shakedown trip.

HD: Sounds like you made out pretty good. You could always stick the Webber Grill Cart in the back of the jeep. I don't even store my tow bar in the motor-home any more. When I tow it's hooked up and stays hooked up until I get home. When at home I just store it in the garage.

Let me know what your coach weighs fully loaded, front axle, rear axle. I have the new built in TPMS system. I had to have a sensor re flashed because it was throwing error codes. Freight Liner fixed the problem and set my tire pressure at 105 PSI. I still think that's high for our size tires and weight. I don't know what the highs and lows are on my system. Even though the coach rides pretty good at the 105 PSI.

Good luck on your shake down trip.

Jim P.

 

[RonAz]

What size Jack Pads fit the new 33aa?

 

[Headhunter]

What size Jack Pads fit the new 33aa?

I presume you mean Snap Pads. The 2021 Tiffin 33 AA has different size Jack base plates on the front and the back. So the back Snap Pads are much bigger than the fronts. The code on the Snap Pad box of mine says ( HIPLSP4 / 2C2E ) .

As a FYI, the rear pads when installed and retracted completely, hit the frame a bit on one side. So the pad is canted a bit. This is not a problem when descending or retracting the jacks. The bottom plate on the jack swivels a bit to adjust for uneven services.

HH

 

[RonAz]

Thanks for the info

 

[High Desert]

The other option is product called “Hush Pads” basically a larger form factor of recycled tires 1 1/2“ thick that you have to place under the jack pads. Benefit is a larger footprint for weight distribution, especially on soft areas, or asphalt in the hot summer. Disadvantage is that you have to get down to see the placement to meet the jack foot. Pros and cons of each.

 

[High Desert]

Took off Wednsedayand made a run to the coast for a couple of days for a shakedown trip. Pretty,easedwith how the u it did. Did not have chance to hit weigh station, but had tire pressure at 92 psi. Coach ride and handled well. We did mountain passes, some freeway, windy, rolly secondary roads, and long 6% grades. It was a pleasure to drive and ride in. Never got tired, no butt soreness or knots between the shoulder blades! Traveled 570 miles and averaged just under 10 mpg. Very pleased with the u it. Couple of minor things I’m going back to the dealer on, Monday, but should be simple to fix. Can’t believe I did not go this route to start with.

 

[Headhunter]

Took off Wednsedayand made a run to the coast for a couple of days for a shakedown trip. Pretty,easedwith how the u it did. Did not have chance to hit weigh station, but had tire pressure at 92 psi. Coach ride and handled well. We did mountain passes, some freeway, windy, rolly secondary roads, and long 6% grades. It was a pleasure to drive and ride in. Never got tired, no butt soreness or knots between the shoulder blades! Traveled 570 miles and averaged just under 10 mpg. Very pleased with the u it. Couple of minor things I’m going back to the dealer on, Monday, but should be simple to fix. Can’t believe I did not go this route to start with.

Yep their is a big difference in the ride characteristics of the 33AA compared to the 32SA. Glad everything went well for you. My coach is back at dealer for some warranty work. Solar panel wire not connected behind panel with remote controller. Refrigerator bracket behind fridge broke or came loose, and a couple of other things that popped up on my 6 day shakedown cruse.

I think 85 to 90 PSI rear, and 90 to 95 PSI fronts would be about optimal for the 33AA. But without weighing the coach it would be just guessing. Mine are set to 105 PSI, Freightiner set them at that PSI when they re-flashed my TPMS sensor.

You are getting great gas mileage. Pulling my Jeep 4door Sahara, around 4700 lbs, I am averaging between 7 and 8 miles per gallon so far.

Here in the Northeast the leaves are changing and the cold will be hitting soon. I want to take the coach one or two more times before winter storage. Don't know if I will make it though.

HH