Newmar King Aire fire

[redbaron]

I pity the person that trusts AI over real intelligence.

Facts are the 2 truck drivers had California licenses and could not pass a simple English skills test.

There is a major problem with foreign truck drivers wearing flip flops, washing feet in the sinks at truck stops, not speaking English, and making the roads more dangerous.

The state department is finally taking action to stop the new visa being awarded.

ICE and other agencies are targeting the fuel stations and weigh stations armed with Dr. Seuss and other simple English books.

Things are in motion to make the roads safer, but right now the road conditions are damgerous.

And while the enforcement agencies are actively pursuing the trucking industry, no one is even talking about the farming, recreational, or hobby drivers that contribute to the same problem.

Texas, Florida, Montana, California all contribute to the problem of the recreational, hobby, and farming issue by not enforcing the laws.

I have never seen an RV pulled over for speeding or inspection sticker issue in Texas. I feel like it’s too much of a hassle for them to deal with it.

If a threat of being ticketed existed, we would see an increase in properly licensed drivers.

The roads are dangerous due to the lack of properly educated drivers, both commercial and non commercial.

 

[Holdmybeer]

I pity the person that trusts AI over real intelligence.

Facts are the 2 truck drivers had California licenses and could not pass a simple English skills test.

There is a major problem with foreign truck drivers wearing flip flops, washing feet in the sinks at truck stops, not speaking English, and making the roads more dangerous.

The state department is finally taking action to stop the new visa being awarded.

ICE and other agencies are targeting the fuel stations and weigh stations armed with Dr. Seuss and other simple English books.

Things are in motion to make the roads safer, but right now the road conditions are damgerous.

And while the enforcement agencies are actively pursuing the trucking industry, no one is even talking about the farming, recreational, or hobby drivers that contribute to the same problem.

Texas, Florida, Montana, California all contribute to the problem of the recreational, hobby, and farming issue by not enforcing the laws.

I have never seen an RV pulled over for speeding or inspection sticker issue in Texas. I feel like it’s too much of a hassle for them to deal with it.

If a threat of being ticketed existed, we would see an increase in properly licensed drivers.

The roads are dangerous due to the lack of properly educated drivers, both commercial and non commercial.

There is no major problem with foreign truck drivers, wearing flip flops, washing their feet in sinks at truck stops. That's xenophobic nonsense.

 

[redbaron]

You would have to be in a diesel fuel lane at any truck stop in america to see the flip flops (or sandals). I have personally seen this every fuel stop for the past year.

With a gasser, you won't notice the reality, and AI won't have any data to help you, so I understand your thought process.

 

[Boat Bum]

At least they're not wearing Crocs.

 

[Neal]

I'm offering $100 for anyone that can provide a picture of @redbaron in flip flops or sandals (no crocs) at a truck stop! Be on the lookout!

 

[JBright11]

There is no major problem with foreign truck drivers, wearing flip flops, washing their feet in sinks at truck stops. That's xenophobic nonsense.

Well, it most certainly is a problem in a distribution center and it isn't only feet being washed in there. I'll have to agree that the issue is not isolated to only foreign drivers, however, there are certainly different habits on display.

 

[Holdmybeer]

Well, it most certainly is a problem in a distribution center and it isn't only feet being washed in there. I'll have to agree that the issue is not isolated to only foreign drivers, however, there are certainly different habits on display.

That's not the point. The point is using dog whistle language and xenophobic nonsense to gin up antipathy toward an entire people or group of people. We've seen this playbook before.

 

[Neal]

Let's get this thread back on track in learning lessons from unfortunate circumstances. I think the take away from this incident is to use your engine brake, keep your speed under control, monitor tire temps with a good TPMS, and pull over if needed to let things cool down. I had a time when heading east from a winter in AZ where I hit hot southern TX and had high pressure alerts and had to stop and adjust my tire pressures.

Stay safe, these are dangerous machines and most of us are not well trained to drive them and need to gain that experience over time carefully and learning from each other. Take a driving course if you can, some rallies offer them, you never know you may actually learn something.

 

[redbaron]

I'm offering $100 for anyone that can provide a picture of @redbaron in flip flops or sandals (no crocs) at a truck stop! Be on the lookout!

I do wear those---but I don't have a CDL that prohibits it.

Any CDL driver wearing those is breaking federal law.

 

[Neal]

Okay, it's humor, but I ask again (not asking) - return the thread to the King Aire fire and what we can learn from it specific to us being RV owners/drivers and how to avoid this situation.

Thanks all....

 

[No Plan]

As an update to this unfortunate situation I was made privy recently, not disclosing my source, to what caused this incident. It was not brake related... the ensuing fire was caused by a catastrophic engine implosion.

 

[osuallen]

Implosion?? Pretty difficult to experience implosion on an ICE engine

 

[team bradfield]

As an update to this unfortunate situation I was made privy recently, not disclosing my source, to what caused this incident. It was not brake related... the ensuing fire was caused by a catastrophic engine implosion.

That can't happen, totally YT bullshit

 

[No Plan]

From the pictures I saw of the shrapnel from the engine being held in an individual's hand, an implosion would be my best description.

 

[No Plan]

Okay gentlemen, obviously you know more about this incident than what I was told by an individual involved in this incident... Carry on.

 

[redbaron]

Ponder this:

Mechanical failure of catastrophic nature while using engine brake.

Would be the same damage as when under power except the location and the sudden loss of air for brakes when you need control the most.

If it did have a catastrophic there is no doubt it would cause severe problems in properly stopping on that incline.

 

[Neal]

Folks, some responses in this thread are not showing us how we can represent human kind as good people and kind people. While you/we may be shocked and some caught up on terms, maybe catastrophic engine failure is the better description vs. implode, explode, spontaneously combust, etc. etc.

What I'm more interested in as the investigation continues is what was the cause. Was it a Cummins failure or a Spartan failure and exactly where/what failed. This needs to be determined as to the cause of the fire and tragic loss of a very expensive vehicle and what could have been loss of life.

I've spoken to the source and know the source of the information which is not desired to be shared to protect those involved. Let's not shoot the messenger and let's see if we can learn more from this to prevent this from happening to anyone else. That's what accident investigations are for with aircraft, transportation accidents, etc. This investigation must continue to find the cause.