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almost ready to order superstar 4059. Please give me good/bad experiences or thoughts from any owners
 
Curious as to why you choose a SuperStar? Do you tow a very heavy trailer?
Nice looking but the SuperStar appears to be a very specific application.
What is the amount of personal belongings, supplies, water etc. carrying capacity?
 
Curious as to why you choose a SuperStar? Do you tow a very heavy trailer?
Nice looking but the SuperStar appears to be a very specific application.
What is the amount of personal belongings, supplies, water etc. carrying capacity?
Thank you for reply. We are brand new to RV life. We have looked at a lot of Class A diesel models and really liked look and build and feel of the Super C class. We will be using weekends. Few trips. Parked at big lake most of summer. Interested in any/all comments on good/bad other recommendations.
Basement definitely smaller than Class A. Has 150 fresh,60 grey, 40 blk. 6,200 lb carry payload, 20,000 lb tow.
 
Cannot speak to performance, when we picked up our vantana, a couple next to us was trading in the Super C they have from thor, said it was junk always in shop. I would compare holding tanks, fresh water tanks, approximate gross weight, and actualy floor plan length/access before you commit. You can use all the floor plan space in Class A, not sure how the cockpit of super c, lends itself to actual use when parked, big consideration if living space is primary. Remember RV's are about 400 odd sqft of living space, so that is small area to be confined in, and if you lose cockpit area, even smaller. Engine size is for me a major consideration, as the 360 is way underpowered, wish it was 400 at least, the DEF system seems to reduce power for some reason.
 
I think they are very good looking rigs. When we purchased our 4369 new we looked at a couple super C floorplans but as full timers they seemed too small for our needs.

I suspect there are a couple advantages over having a regular DP though. I am guessing most super C owners don't average breaking a windshield every year, plus when you have your annual maintenance done it might be slightly cheaper and faster.
 
Thank you to everyone for the comments. They will be put into our decision making. More are always welcome. We are going slow and being arduous.
 
When comparing, you should look at the Ventana 40' & 43' floor plans. This is the most directly comparable to the Super star, and has a bit larger engine with a bit less towing capacity.

The Ventana is rated to tow 15K lbs, and has 75 grey, 55 black, 105 fresh, 100 fuel capacity.

Those are direct comparisons for build type and features.
 
These sound high, not what I have.
It improved in 2020
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It's tough to know what you don't know. If all you are going to do is leave it set up, then floor plan and amenities are your driver. However, the few trips you mention what type of camping venue will you use? Check with then to see if your new rig is able to use those venues. I'm not making social comment here, or advocating either way. Just be aware that not all RV resorts are open to the Super C rigs yet. I have read people complain about this, and be surprised when they tried to use a venue and were refuse. May be important to you, or not be.
 
My suggestion if you are not going to put many miles on the RV consider a tow behind. Powered units, especially Diesel, do not like to sit.
You will end up having all sorts of issues from lack of use.
You will end up being much happier with a tow behind rather than a powered unit.
 
Thank you everyone for all your replies and suggestions. We have re-evaluated and placed an order for a Supreme Aire 4573 from Transwest. We are so excited to enter the RV experience. Transwest was fantastic and I cant say enough good things about the buying experience they provided.
 
congrats on your Supreme Aire order!! we bought our Super Star 4051 from Transwest in Frederick and couldn't be happier!! we need to start a Newmar Super C group/rally!!
 
From what I remember the DS, VT and KS were able to get bigger holding tanks in the '20 model year because the basement floor got 2" closer to the ground to match the highline with the taller basement.
 
Wanted so share my thoughts based on real world experience on some of the comments..

loss of cab area - this is not the case in the super star as the two captains chairs swing around and are considered part of the living area space.. not sure why that was confusing to some..

HP - our 2021 4051 has 350HP and tows my F250 like nothing is back there. we keep up with the trucks and that is the main goal is not to be the slow one on the road..

Grey/Black tank storage - 60 grey/40black and 150 fresh.. unless you are gonna dry camp for 5 days, this is sufficient as we have dry camped in the infield at Talladega and had no issues..

Class A only resorts/parks - we haven't come across any issues with this and to be honest, the parks/resorts that are A class only are not ones we would stay at anyway.. The Newmar Super C's present themselves better than a large percentage of Class A units out there.. enough said there lol.

One thing that was told to me by another Super C owner is this.. A Class A looks great parked, but a Super C drives great and looks great parked.. so if you are going to log ALOT of miles like we do, drive them both on the same roads, same conditions and the decide... our choice was the SuperC.

We test drove and researched for two years before we pulled the trigger on our coach and never looked back..
 
Loved loved loved my Super C Seneca. They are two different drives. The super C is more athletic in every way. you can figure the size on your own. Super c is a little more firm. Didn’t bother us. My only real reason for going DP was the sound Inside. I have two kids. One is only two. With the motor up front, I could not hear them.… That was a lot of my reasoning.… the other real note of a super c is that you have the motor in front if God forbid a crash. You will enjoy it. And if you don’t, current market is red hot on Super C and you can just trade on a class A. :)
 
We love our super C (Renegade). Each super c can be different in sound levels and build. Generally super c will have more cabin noise compared to a DP and generally a super C will ride firmer than a DP.

But we like the safety aspect of the Super C, ease of maintenance, lower cost and easier to find maintenance on the engine/chassis. Also drives really nice.

Windshield was mentioned. We had a crack on the windshield during this past year. Didn’t bother filing a claim with insurance as the total cost for windshield and labor was $250 to be replaced at our campsite.

As others have said, depending on the configuration you can tow quite a bit (we are rated for 30,000 pound towing capacity with 5,000 pound tongue weight).

DEF tanks are right next to the diesel tank, very easy to fill without requiring you to move the coach between diesel and DEF.

We love our super C.
 

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