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[Neal]

Any pics of your splitters?

 

[AbdRahim]

Any pics of your splitters?

I assume these are Newmar standard issue. I have a second GE one on order, now that I removed the couch to get to the second one.

 

[Neal]

I can't read the frequency spectrum on it but I changed them out per my article to the ones compatible with digital coax which is what some campgrounds use. You also should put terminators on the unused ports.

 

[AbdRahim]

Terminators killed the signal altogether. I order the ones you suggested.

 

[Just George]

Looks like the Newmar std 4 way splitter upper freq = 1000 Mhz. It will help if you go to a 2 way splitter assuming that is all you are using. A good 2 way will have about 1/2 the loss of a 4 way. Also I think it's been covered but putting terminators on any unused ports can also help.

 

[Neal]

I don't think that's possible, technically. Did you try the newer splitter with the wider frequency range? After all that's done rescan for channels.

 

[Neal]

Looks like the Newmar std 4 way splitter upper freq = 1000 Mhz. It will help if you go to a 2 way splitter assuming that is all you are using. A good 2 way will have about 1/2 the loss of a 4 way. Also I think it's been covered but putting terminators on any unused ports can also help.

Agree, a splitter with only the needed connections is ideal and then no terminators are needed either.

 

[Just George]

If a terminator happened to be shorted it could kill the signal, but otherwise would not expect loss of signal due to terminators. Best I can offer re splitter is go to a 2 way splitter with upper freq in the 2300-2500Mhz range. A good 2 way will have a output loss of ~ 3.5db I would guess the 4 way loss is double that.

 

[AbdRahim]

I think they used that one because all the wires are on the same side. I did order bothe the 4 and 2 to try behind the couch.

 

[Neal]

Best you can do is quality splitters and terminators. Outside of that I expect crappy signal from campgrounds running coax probably split more than it should be, not amplified, and coax connectors weathered and corroded. It is odd to not get the same channels across all TV's, I still have the same problem at times. It's just not a good setup no matter what you do.

 

[DaveW-NBS]

AbdRahim - sorry this may be a bit late - but in my 2021 Bay Star 3124 my splitter was in the basement on the passenger side of the coach - it was mid-coach in the same bay as the connection point for an outside TV - but I really had to physically trace the coax leads to (accidentally) come across the splitter - it was tucked up over and deep above one of the tanks (can't remember if it was water or sewer).

I did trace all of my coax feeds - on my Bay Star the campground coax feed and the antenna coax feed went directly to the the selector/amp switch by the pass seat - the feed from that switch went directly to the basement splitter I found - it was a four-way splitter and each of the feeds from the splitter went directly to a TV location (front, bedroom, basement (outside TV) and a new outlet I had Newmar install near the dinette). I confirmed the end points (and confirmed there were no "alternate routes or splits" in the cables) using a coax tester. I did not have any additional splitters in the overhead cabinets.

Hope this helps..............
Dave

 

[Engleman]

Anyone experience the rear TV not able to receive some of the cable channels present on the front TV?

Some channels come in but sketchy, only on rear (bedroom TV)

Anyone know where the splitter is in the Bay Stars?

No but my front tv remote turns on my rear TV when front is turn on at the right angle. Drives me nuts!! Is there a way to stop that?

 

[AbdRahim]

No but my front tv remote turns on my rear TV when front is turn on at the right angle. Drives me nuts!! Is there a way to stop that?

Do you mean pointing straight at front tv?

 

[Engleman]

I can be sitting on my j lounge sofa in front of coach and turn on front TV. When I turn on the TV the signal from remote bounces off the front TV and turns on the rear TV on the opposite wall.

 

[AbdRahim]

I can be sitting on my j lounge sofa in front of coach and turn on front TV. When I turn on the TV the signal from remote bounces off the front TV and turns on the rear TV on the opposite wall.

Is there a door you can close between the two?

 

[AbdRahim]

Ok. I replaced the splitters with the GE ones suggested by Neal. I installed the terminators before making any connections. Now some channels get three bars, but many still only get one bar. Signal to noise ratio approx 30 db. Some channels fluctuate from 1 bar 32 db SNR to 0 bars and SNR =0.

Sothis seems to confirm my earlier conclusion that the original signal from the campground is strong enough to get through one splitter, but barely able to get through two.

I never measured signal strength prior to this, so I don’t have a comparison to other parks. I would be interested to see what numbers others are seeing.

 

[Neal]

Why not try a signal amp/booster? Once upon a time my cable company put one in my house. Later change to Verizon FIOS it wasn't needed. But something to try.

 

[AbdRahim]

Yes, I did ask if anyone had tried these. I looked at them but decided to wait and see how replacing both splitters worked. I will likely try an amp now.

 

[AbdRahim]

The cable guy showed up, finally. As Suspected, the signal out of pole was very weak. No more pipeline, but some channels are still only one bar in signal strength.

I know adding wire decreases the signal,howerver. I am planning to move the splitter behind the wall, behind the couch to a more accessible area. Removing the couch to get behind the false wall is ridiculous.

Amp arrives tomorrow. Not sure whether or not I will install it. I think it is better to not continue to twist the ends of these connections.

So I guess this can be labeled solved.

 

[Neal]

I don't think there's any harm in installing one other than sourcing power for it. Let us know how it goes. Marking resolved as you requested.