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So, driving straight down I40 and see toad in side mirror. Not good.

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Tnedator

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Apparently one of my safety pins came loose or was removed overnight. Was only driving 15 minutes to Cummins and left Jeep hooked up overnight at KOA, so must admit I didn't check Jeep this morning.

Nearly brand new Roadmaster Nighthawk is trashed. Going to look at other attachment options other blueox at this point (have blueox connection setup on my nighthawk).
 
Sorry to hear this, knowing self, could have been user error too not locking a clip or something. Hindsight is 20/20, no words required. Glad you and Jeep are safe and the only damage is that small plastic item. As I use a non locking pull pin on my main hitch for quick release for fire breakaway I inspect this and all every time. I've made my share of mistakes such as the electric cable dragging for a trip and killing that. Things happen.

I helped @Joe Hogan install his new Blue Ox yesterday, was impressed with the quality of the one he bought. I think it was the Avail.
 
I normally check all the connections at every stop (fuel, test area, etc). This was short trip from home to little Rock last night (90 miles) and then 15 minutes this morning. Just got out of my routine.

Had to not only disconnect Jeep, and fortunately wife was with me to drive, but couldn't even keep tow bar on, as bolt that locks it in stow mode sheared off. And one of the arms won't retract, so probably bent. Will be interesting if Roadmaster will repair\rebuild (for fee), since not a tow bar failure.
 
There was a recent recall on roadmaster. Don’t remember the details as I don’t use them. Search this forum as I think they posted it here too.
 
There was a recent recall on roadmaster. Don’t remember the details as I don’t use them. Search this forum as I think they posted it here too.
Just saw that when looking them up for alternate attachment point. Will check serial number and call them tomorrow.
 
I think I saw, might have even bought and have then tucked away someplace,a different safety pin design that latches in place rather than the way the factory blue ox works with the hoop that pops down. I now remember seeing on Amazon or trailer, but don't recall if I bought any. Clearly didn't start using them.
 
Mine is pre-recall. Roadmaster said their standard service is 200, but if there are major components, like a bent arm ($130), those would be in addition to the standard service/rebuild kit. I'm sending it in and then they will call me with a quote, once they inspect it.
 
In reading about others that have had this problem (securing clip coming out), one thing I read, and didn't know, is that the ring on the retaining pin has to be pushed down in one direction. When I got my first tow bar, the RV dealer never gave me a manual, it was just already on the back of my RV and he showed me how to hook it up.

Blue Ox says "chamfered side will be facing outwards" if installed correctly, and if it's reversed, the ring doesn't fully snap into place and can pop up and then the pin fall out with vibration.

So, having never known there was a correct side for the pin to be oriented and the ring closed, it's very possible on my lost pin, that I had the pin reversed with the "chamfered" side facing in instead of out.
 
Don't feel bad, I closed the ring on the pin the wrong way and almost lost my Towed. Stopped for lunch and checked setup, pin was almost completely out. I now carry extras in my tool box.

HH
 
I have always carried extra pins and clips, and normally check at every stop, but got lazy Tuesday night/Wed morning, not to mention not knowing that the clip had to be oriented a certain way. My wife even said "do we need to double check lights and brakes are working" in the morning before we left and I said we were only driving 15 minutes and hadn't disconnected, we should be fine. No more skipping steps for me. Lesson learned. Just glad the only damage was a towbar, and there was no car next to me that go side swiped when jeep went partially into my lane to the left.
 
I have the locking style, the key is a PITA but it seems very secure
 
In reading about others that have had this problem (securing clip coming out), one thing I read, and didn't know, is that the ring on the retaining pin has to be pushed down in one direction. When I got my first tow bar, the RV dealer never gave me a manual, it was just already on the back of my RV and he showed me how to hook it up.

Blue Ox says "chamfered side will be facing outwards" if installed correctly, and if it's reversed, the ring doesn't fully snap into place and can pop up and then the pin fall out with vibration.

So, having never known there was a correct side for the pin to be oriented and the ring closed, it's very possible on my lost pin, that I had the pin reversed with the "chamfered" side facing in instead of out.
Good info - I always assumed that was what the flat side of the pin was for but didn’t know the other way was “wrong”, and I could easily have done it the other way from time to time without noticing.
 
This trip with a blue Ox is my first. Can someone post an image of the correct orientation of pin? In vs out. has ne a bit befuddled.
 
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This trip with a blue Ox is my first. Can someone post an image of the correct orientation of pin? In vs outvhas ne a bit befuddled.
So this was posted on another forum, which I came across when I was searching on this issue last night.

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Here is an image of the Pins correctly inserted on the Blue Ox
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Blue ox comes with plastic tags on these clips explaining this. You have to cut them off. I’m picking up a new tow bar today (hopefully) and will take a picture of this tag and share later.

Story developing as to why. Stay tuned.
 
Blue ox comes with plastic tags on these clips explaining this. You have to cut them off. I’m picking up a new tow bar today (hopefully) and will take a picture of this tag and share later.

Story developing as to why. Stay tuned.
Oh man, I'm a sorry excuse for an RV'er. I've seen those tags, but never looked at what was on them. Feel like a real dope now.
 
Oh man, I'm a sorry excuse for an RV'er. I've seen those tags, but never looked at what was on them. Feel like a real dope now.
You're sharing, others can learn from your experience. I'm sure you have or will save someone else from something going wrong. Good on you!

The only reason I know this was from helping @Joe Hogan with his blue ox setup and we had to cut these off and figure out what the heck they were telling us.
 
I watched a You Tube video by the RV Geeks about flat towing. They said to always put the pins from inside to outside. I started doing that and noticed the release pin was never tight so I guess it works.
 
Oh man, I'm a sorry excuse for an RV'er. I've seen those tags, but never looked at what was on them. Feel like a real dope now.
I’m also really glad you brought this to everyone’s attention and you’ve probably just prevented future accidents. That isn’t dopey. I appreciate the info and will pay strict attention to this now. As I mentioned earlier I’m sure I’ve put them in the wrong way before and just got lucky.
 

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