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Jim

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Newmar
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Thanks for moving my post. I did not realize it was posted.
Maybe this is the time products start improving.
 
Maybe the jacked up prices since covid scare and the poor quality of the units and the nonexistant service for all the issues...might just be contributing to poor sales
 
Maybe the jacked up prices since covid scare and the poor quality of the units and the nonexistant service for all the issues...might just be contributing to poor sales
I was looking at trailers around 2018 and they were built very cheaply with measuring and cutting by the blind offspring of ray charles. Or ronnie milsap, depending upon your musical tastes.
I also got an alum topper for one of my trucks about the same time and had to send it back to the factory three times as standing in back with the doors open, you could see daylight through it in some spots. In one spot they were having trouble anchoring the skin down as there were about 4 screws w/in about 1.5inchs....and you could still see daylight underneath that clump of screws.

So manufacturing in the usa was tanking, quality wise, before the wuhan virus hit. I think what the release of that virus did most, consumer wise, is to skyrocket retail pricing.

an rv consumer advocate channel on yt says to not buy anything after 2018 IIRC but from a very few, small, independent manufacturers....nothing out of indiana. I'd have to agree with that.

Vehicles also got worse and skyrocketed in price.

But the problem is....people still keep buying. If people are continuing to buy these new, defective junk units, why should pricing go down? They can overcharge, cut corners/do fraud, then not have to foot the bill to fix any of their defects after purchase. Sounds like a win-win for the manufacturers and dealerships....be it autos or RVs.

People financing these are also a big problem as many are upside down, so in order to move on/up, they have to get new to get the financing...so they go further upside down. I truly don't see how that can rectify itself. People seem to be resigned, sometimes even gleeful, of getting futher and further in debt.
 
Buy junk get junk. Even junk is skyrocketing due to the foolish policy of raising prices on every single product made or sold in the USA.
Lets not blame the truckers, the builders, the workers. You m ay not want to face it but deep down you know who is to blame for the current disaster
 
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Thanks for moving my post. I did not realize it was posted.
Maybe this is the time products start improving.
That's not happening. They do the math, if the cost of quality exceeds the cost of poor quality nothing will change. Giving lip service to quality is free, and that's going to be the extent of it.
 
I was looking at trailers around 2018 and they were built very cheaply with measuring and cutting by the blind offspring of ray charles. Or ronnie milsap, depending upon your musical tastes.
I also got an alum topper for one of my trucks about the same time and had to send it back to the factory three times as standing in back with the doors open, you could see daylight through it in some spots. In one spot they were having trouble anchoring the skin down as there were about 4 screws w/in about 1.5inchs....and you could still see daylight underneath that clump of screws.

So manufacturing in the usa was tanking, quality wise, before the wuhan virus hit. I think what the release of that virus did most, consumer wise, is to skyrocket retail pricing.

an rv consumer advocate channel on yt says to not buy anything after 2018 IIRC but from a very few, small, independent manufacturers....nothing out of indiana. I'd have to agree with that.

Vehicles also got worse and skyrocketed in price.

But the problem is....people still keep buying. If people are continuing to buy these new, defective junk units, why should pricing go down? They can overcharge, cut corners/do fraud, then not have to foot the bill to fix any of their defects after purchase. Sounds like a win-win for the manufacturers and dealerships....be it autos or RVs.

People financing these are also a big problem as many are upside down, so in order to move on/up, they have to get new to get the financing...so they go further upside down. I truly don't see how that can rectify itself. People seem to be resigned, sometimes even gleeful, of getting futher and further in debt.
The only problem with you theory is that US manufacturing has been garbage compared to Japan since at least the 80s, if not longer.
 
Because in their situation it makes good financial sense.
my FA insisted on financing and leaving my nest egg in investments
 

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