2019-2023 Newmars with Valid Air TSB 591

[ARD]

Heads up on a Newmar Technical Service Bulletin (TSB 591, I think) that will be coming out this week. When Spartan sends the chassis to Newmar they zip tie an air filter to the chassis and it is supposed to be installed in the electrical bay. It is zip tied ODS near front tire. I'd hate to be the one in production that overlooked this as ALL Newmars with a Spartan Chassis have not had the air filter installed.

 

[redbaron]

an airfilter for what ? The electric bay seems very odd place for this to be installed.
Its for the Valid air leveling system:

https://newpar.newmarcorp.com/instance1Env99NEWMAR/html/images/BLTN591T.pdf

 

[redbaron]

I just looked at the population. This goes back as far as 2019 Essex, and all the way up to 2023 models.

This only affects coach with Valid air leveling. This filter is part of the active leveling, air intake. It looks like the filter has a bag over it, preventing air from entering the system. I wonder what that effect is overall?

The electrical compartment they are dealing with is in front, below the driver seat.

 

[ARD]

an airfilter for what ? The electric bay seems very odd place for this to be installed.
Its for the Valid air leveling system:

https://newpar.newmarcorp.com/instance1Env99NEWMAR/html/images/BLTN591T.pdf

You found it. Great. I was looking all over for it. I only had the information that my tech told me. Thanks for filling in the blanks. I will edit the thread name.

 

[ARD]

It looks like the filter has a bag over it, preventing air from entering the system. I wonder what that effect is overall?

It is my understanding that Spartan attached the filter to the chassis. I believe the bag's only purpose is to protect the filter. In production, Newmar was supposed to take the filter out of the bag and install it in the electrical bay (Driver side, 1st bay).

 

[Jabber Jaw]

Are Y'all saying Newmar has not installed these on Spartan chassis coached since 2019
WOW!
And we all bought a coach from one of the premium manufacturers in the Industry?
Hopefully Newmar will correct this on each of your coaches with Valid Air"!
I'm a bit disappointed, but not totally surprised.
And other manufacturers have even bigger issues!

 

[redbaron]

Are Y'all saying Newmar has not installed these on Spartan chassis coached since 2019
WOW!
And we all bought a coach from one of the premium manufacturers in the Industry?
Hopefully Newmar will correct this on each of your coaches with Valid Air"!
I'm a bit disappointed, but not totally surprised.
And other manufacturers have even bigger issues!

Most likely it happened like this:

Spartan made a change from Hadley to Valid air. This included an additional air hose that needed to be protected from both transit and construction. So they wrapped it in plastic, coiled it up, and made a phone call to their newmar lead letting them know about the change.

Newmar lead either moved on, or forgot. Either way--that change was not documented and remained undiscovered until Spartan had a chassis in for a problem with Valid air---then the discovery was made and escalated.

I really want to know if the ride is improved once the system can breathe properly

 

[ARD]

Hopefully Newmar will correct this on each of your coaches with Valid Air"!

They installed it on my coach two weeks ago so I’m good to go. Well, as far as that goes.

 

[FLSteve]

Heads up on a Newmar Technical Service Bulletin (TSB 591, I think) that will be coming out this week. When Spartan sends the chassis to Newmar they zip tie an air filter to the chassis and it is supposed to be installed in the electrical bay. It is zip tied ODS near front tire. I'd hate to be the one in production that overlooked this as ALL Newmars with a Spartan Chassis have not had the air filter installed.

@ARD ... perfect timing as I will be in Nappanee on 10/31/22. I just went out and looked and found the "green bag" on my coach so will have them add this to my list.

Thank you for posting this.

FLSteve

 

[ARD]

perfect timing as I will be in Nappanee on 10/31/22

I might still be here. I’ll be on the lookout for y’all .

 

[Jim]

Let me see if I understand this correctly. There are hundreds, maybe thousands of couches that have not had this filter installed?

So where are all the filters? Still hanging in the bay somewhere?

 

[ARD]

So where are all the filters?

They are zip tied to the chassis near the drivers front tire.

 

[Jim]

They are zip tied to the chassis near the drivers front tire.

Took them several years to catch this? Kind of makes you feel all warm and fuzzy doesn't it?

 

[GlampDaddy]

Newmar ... when you know the difference!
Their words, not mine.

 

[SteveMA]

Good News! It's not just Spartan.... My 2020 Mountain Aire Freightliner started having Valid "FAULT" warnings on the control panel. Strange noises occasionally. I tried to reset it with power cycles, Salesman switch et al. 50/50. then one day the noise and "FAULT" went away. Brought the generator out for inspection a few weeks ago and looked right under the Hot water/air connections on the driver side - there is the filter without a bag cable tied to the valid air pump. Have contacted Newmar and yes of course my serial number is on the list. Aired up and dumped the bags a few times and the pump is not happy. Awaiting parts to be shipped to a dealer.

 

[Jabber Jaw]

Well, You may get a chance to "expound" on the incompetency!
Received a "NEWMAR" survey in email yesterday, & most, if not all of y'all should!!
Your chance to "tell it like it is"!!

 

[Joe Hogan]

Oops, and this went on for how many years!! Another item to check during FPU

 

[SteveMA]

I only wish I would get the survey email. Newmar often acts like I have never spoken to them. And their advertising - if you open a "new model" email they email back a few weeks latter to be sure "My Dealer" had contacted me. For the record NO dealer has ever contacted me from any Newmar Ad or marketing efforts. (excepting Transwest below)

I bought the coach with 8200 miles. discovered that they sold it for Prevost (good) but that it had many (really many) factory build faults that had made it unreliable. TransWest in Frederick Co. stepped up and fixed the biggest issue (FWS was build with 2 different length hydraulic pistons but that took almost 3 weeks to resolve (HWH figured it out in 5 min). there have been a host of other things (even last night) but overall I love the coach, it will just become like another child that I will have to support....