Do you want discussions limited to human interaction, without AI distraction?

[CaptainGizmo]

Well, as expected...without argument, we all agree that AI has an INCREDIBLY useful place as a tool in our live's. Use it, or get lost in the dust. It's as powerful as the first CNC lathe was to my buddy who bought the very first one and, rather than staying with the old "Tool & Die" machinists, he put the CNC to work and it paid itself in months.

So, even though AI can write a meal plan in 15 seconds that would take my daughter, with her masters in nutrition hours, the one thing she has is herself as a human with personal touches.

I use it every day to be a HELPER, when I want. Heck, last night even, GROK and I got into an argument and that TWIT called me out and got downright nasty. So, I turned her off! LOL...that's one big advantage to AI.

BUT, IN TERMS OF THIS "USER" FORUM...we're back to the original opinion, which NO WAY do I want AI's interaction in this forum of people with unique names and character; or lack thereof. ;-)

 

[redbaron]

What kinds of things are you guys asking AI? Just in general, doesn't have to be RV related.

Here is a prompt I created for a friend that was modified for generic use

“I have knee arthritis and would like a safe, effective exercise plan to strengthen my knee and reduce pain.


Here are my details:

• Age: [insert age]
• Current fitness level: [beginner / moderately active / active]
• Arthritis severity: [mild / moderate / severe, or describe symptoms like pain level, stiffness, swelling]
• Any limitations or other conditions: [optional]

Please create a personalized exercise plan that includes:

• Low-impact strengthening exercises and stretches appropriate for my condition
• Recommended frequency, duration, and progression over time
• Modifications based on my fitness level and arthritis severity
• Clear instructions for proper form
• Movements or activities I should avoid
• Tips for managing pain, stiffness, or flare-ups

Include a simple weekly routine I can follow.”

 

[team bradfield]

I use my Dr. I trust him more than a bot, good luck with that, problem arrives medicare , where'd you get that info, um google,

 

[Rosy]

Here is a prompt I created for a friend that was modified for generic use

“I have knee arthritis and would like a safe, effective exercise plan to strengthen my knee and reduce pain.


Here are my details:

• Age: [insert age]
• Current fitness level: [beginner / moderately active / active]
• Arthritis severity: [mild / moderate / severe, or describe symptoms like pain level, stiffness, swelling]
• Any limitations or other conditions: [optional]

Please create a personalized exercise plan that includes:

• Low-impact strengthening exercises and stretches appropriate for my condition
• Recommended frequency, duration, and progression over time
• Modifications based on my fitness level and arthritis severity
• Clear instructions for proper form
• Movements or activities I should avoid
• Tips for managing pain, stiffness, or flare-ups

Include a simple weekly routine I can follow.”

I'd be much more comfortable getting that type of info from a physiotherapist.

 

[fishslayer]

Can you give us example about how this is done? I have AI in Gmail that is constantly giving corrections to grammar and phrasing but it is opt in, not required. If there are forums actually editing posts without consent using AI I would leave as well. I don’t think anyone would approve of that. AI can be used for many things. Quality knowledge generation and availability is most important. I really like the Grok AI fact checking going on with X. We could use that here on this forum. It can be done without modifying user comments. X simply appends a fact checking box to a post if it finds that someone has purposely stated a “fact” that can be confirmed as erroneous. The words still stand as posted but the reader is advised to seek further information.

And who checks the fact checker?We all see the disclaimer on AI.
Can make mistakes...so do you take the AI ,known to make up answers if it doesnt know it, or the human who posted as the real fact?

 

[Underboss]

And who checks the fact checker?We all see the disclaimer on AI.
Can make mistakes...so do you take the AI ,known to make up answers if it doesnt know it, or the human who posted as the real fact?

and humans do not make up answers. I see posts all the time with folks that know nothing about a specific model, and gleefully with bravado post an answer, completely incorrect but they think its fact

 

[redbaron]

I'd be much more comfortable getting that type of info from a physiotherapist.

Give it a try on different models. Even if you don’t follow its recommendations it’s worth reading its advice to understand its logic.

I don’t blindly follow any advice, AI or HI. What this prompt shows is how closely aligned AI is with PT and chiropractic advice.

I printed the plan and asked my orthopedist, chiropractor and physical therapist to review. Not a single fit.

Results may vary but it’s an interesting experiment.

Also, I used Grok for the version I had reviewed.

 

[Holdmybeer]

AI is a tool, no different from an encyclopedia, a dictionary, google, an abucus, a hammer, a screwdriver, or a history book. Use it or don't use it. It can be manipulated cleverly to spread subjective misinformation or it can be used benignly and objectively.. You're not a luddite if you don't choose to use it, neither are you a theoretical physicist if you do.

 

[Holdmybeer]

And who checks the fact checker?We all see the disclaimer on AI.
Can make mistakes...so do you take the AI ,known to make up answers if it doesnt know it, or the human who posted as the real fact?

I tried to trip Gemini up with a navigational angle problem where the degrees and minutes in the subtrahend are greater than those in the minuend and which involves carrying degrees ( 60 minutes) over to minutes or vice versa 60 minutes over to 1°. I also asked it to show its work. What would have taken me several minutes on paper took Gemini 3 to 4 seconds. I can only know if it's correct by knowing how to solve the problem myself or trusting someone who does. I won't have to check every solution after I know I can trust it, however.

 

[fishslayer]

and humans do not make up answers. I see posts all the time with folks that know nothing about a specific model, and gleefully with bravado post an answer, completely incorrect but they think its fact

The difference is you know the human is stating his opinion and not claiming to be all knowing in all things ..Ai does not think, it is not self aware, it is not infallible. And answers your question as if it is just as positive at being right as the poster,... it simply regurgitates whats been programmed into it. And often is just as wrong..only faster at it

 

[Jubilee32]

I have used AI fairly often for a quick analysis or gathering basic info. I do watch the answer correctly. I have had to rephrase my question at times to get a better answer - much like talking with a person.

Most information points to recognizable websites that might have taken me longer to find. I have referred to my coaches printed manual so much, the pages are worn and/or loose. It can be quicker to consult AI and the results are more readable on a phone or iPad. Since my coach model/year was produced on both Spartan and Freightliner chassis, have to filter info for that. Once, I corrected the AI response to the correct chassis and the response was perfect, something like: "that is correct, I gave you info on the wrong chassis". It then corrected it and offered an apology for the confusion.

Nothing is perfect, starting with ME!

 

[Underboss]

How do you know that the human is stating his opinion and not based in fact? Are you a mind reader?

 

[Holdmybeer]

How do you know that the human is stating his opinion and not based in fact? Are you a mind reader?

By knowing the facts, as in, if someone argues there’s more than one way to calculate percentages and that if the price of something that was $600.00 drops to $10.00 it’s a 600% drop, I know he’s an idiot.

 

[CaptainGizmo]

I find this thread humorous...to the point of realizing we're all suckers.

We were asked if we want AI to be a part of our "human" chats, only to find ourselves using AI to talk about why we don't want to have it...wait...or we do want to have...no, wait....danggit...what was the question again?

 

[Holdmybeer]

The difference is you know the human is stating his opinion and not claiming to be all knowing in all things ..Ai does not think, it is not self aware, it is not infallible. And answers your question as if it is just as positive at being right as the poster,... it simply regurgitates whats been programmed into it. And often is just as wrong..only faster at it

Nothing is programmed into AI in the conventional sense. AI is trained, it has parameters but where your brain processes signals at 0.5 to 120 meters per second AI processes signals at roughly 300,000,000 meters per second. It is basically gathering and discarding information (backpropagation) until it assembles the most likely best answer. AI learns for example what the solution to 2+2 is, when it's rewarded for 4 and not rewarded for any other solutuion. It then on it's own may deduce that then logically 4-2=2 (falsification). Completely unlike how your if/then computer's operating system functions. In the case of language it's simply choosing the next most likely token ( word or part of a word) that would fit into a sequence, but it's doing it at about 1% the speed of light, the equivalent of making the trip from NYC to LA in 1.3 seconds.