Electric half ton comparison chart.

[Voyageurs]

Hi folks. Found a comparison chart between the 3 production EV 1/2 tons. May help some in choosing if you are looking at an EV half ton.

The ford is the most truck like. The Rivian R1T and Tesla cybertruck are more of a “compact high performance sport truck” approach as one analyst mentioned. The cybertruck has the longest box and most lockable storage and by far the fastest charging. They all have their pros and cons. I didn’t have a pic of the Ford Lightning, but it looks like an F150.

Anyway. Here’s the chart. Enjoy.

 

[Texas Clodhopper]

If the Ford CEO isn't impressed with his EV product, why in the world would any customer spend $80,000 plus for one? The infrastructure simply doesn't exist and according to the manufacturers, it won't exist for at least 10 years.

 

[TheLooks]

That and you need a super charger every 100 miles to keep it going.

 

[Voyageurs]

That and you need a super charger every 100 miles to keep it going.

Nah. The dual motor cybertruck with the aux pack has a range of 470 miles. So a towing range of a typical trailer pulled by a half ton would be around 250 miles based on historical info. (And my personal experience).

 

[Voyageurs]

If the Ford CEO isn't impressed with his EV product, why in the world would any customer spend $80,000 plus for one? The infrastructure simply doesn't exist and according to the manufacturers, it won't exist for at least 10 years.

I don’t know. The nfrastructure isn’t great everywhere but is certainly good in lots regions. Charging facilities are ubiquitous in our province.

 

[TheLooks]

You don't read the news I guess. The numbers are just lies in the real world. But you do you, which is be a troll in a forum for the EV industry and the rest of us will chuckle. And that does not even cover chargers, charge rate, and whether they even work. You just posted again and you live in a Socialist country, we don't. Our awesome Energy secretary could not even get to Washington DC from the Ohio or Illinois or whatever. And she wasn't even towing anything.

 

[TheLooks]

Tow Test! Ford F-150 Lightning EV vs. Old-School Trucks | Edmunds

Edmunds pits the Ford F-150 Lightning EV against three traditional gas-powered trucks in a towing test. Can the hot, new all-electric pickup handle heavy towing? We find out.

www.edmunds.com

 

[MemoriesByTheMile]

Hey team - let’s keep it civil. We can provide different views and opinions in a respectful way.

 

[Voyageurs]

Hey team - let’s keep it civil. We can provide different views and opinions in a respectful way.

Hi memoriesbythemile. I have asked Neal to delete the thread. I didn’t realize that a vehicle fuel type could be such a political and hate filled topic. It will just be a moderators nightmare. Maybe a few years from now.

Cheers

 

[Kevin D Pem]

You don't read the news I guess. The numbers are just lies in the real world. But you do you, which is be a troll in a forum for the EV industry and the rest of us will chuckle. And that does not even cover chargers, charge rate, and whether they even work. You just posted again and you live in a Socialist country, we don't. Our awesome Energy secretary could not even get to Washington DC from the Ohio or Illinois or whatever. And she wasn't even towing anything.

Holy moly, batman!!! This has been talked till many are blue in the face!!! When you go out the front door start looking for strategically placed vipers.

We all know the health hazards of cobalt mining. What strip mining for lithium does for the environment. We know there are large lots full of EVs in the EU that are considered super sites because of the toxic batteries no one has figured a cost effective way to recycle. Top that off with the downstream emissions charging from the grid produces that are greater than a typical internal combustion vehicle produces!

But hey, what the hell!!! The trend says as a whole, we don't care, as long as we die before the world does!!!

Some of us want a better life for those we brought into this world, so we don't follow, and we do our research!!! But the trend towards these technologies, proves we are a minority!!! Really it is a bad state of affairs, that I am ashamed to say I walk on two legs!!!

 

[TheLooks]

Hi memoriesbythemile. I have asked Neal to delete the thread. I didn’t realize that a vehicle fuel type could be such a political and hate filled topic. It will just be a moderators nightmare. Maybe a few years from now.

Cheers

Only you guys call it hate filled. You spout nonsense and call it hate when called on it. That is what the political left is doing daily in this country. So far there is no real world benefit to going EV unless you don't drive much and for short distances. Your cherry picked travels are propaganda. I would love it if the whole thing were true, but I have been alive to long to be fooled by fake science. I don't mind if Neal deletes it. I will do the same thing the next time one of you post nonsense.

 

[TheLooks]

I recall reading about a company that wanted to go all electric in their plant and fleet. They told the town how much power they needed and the town responded, "are you nuts". It was more power then the whole town consumed. There was no way to provide the megawatts needed. That is the cold reality facing the EV crowd but they keep spewing lies. Just call me a hater when I bring it down to math and reality.

 

[Dan_Frisbie]

EVs are pretty much a fading fad in the U.S. Despite all the hype, false positives, and even requiring them in some areas, we have realized that the technology and infrastructure do not exist. Multiple long trips and towing excursions have been made to “prove” the viability of an EV. Almost all have failed miserably.
Some urban commuters may find that buying an electric car for twice the cost of a comparable IC commuter car, then keeping it charged with fossil fuel is a win for the environment. Most people with a shred of common sense can’t see the logic in that decision.
And I agree, that when points such as the ones that I have expressed are made in a discussion about EVs, the pro-EV crowd calls me and others haters and climate change deniers.
Here’s the best way to settle this. If you want an electric vehicle, then go buy one. If not, then keep your efficient IC vehicle.

 

[Dan_Frisbie]

Nah. The dual motor cybertruck with the aux pack has a range of 470 miles. So a towing range of a typical trailer pulled by a half ton would be around 250 miles based on historical info. (And my personal experience).

The Ford couldn’t make it 100 miles with a full-sized camper in tow.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/ford-f150-lightning-electric-truck-towing-test/

 

[Neal]

Several reported posts in this thread, I read it in its entirety, yes, some slants leaning towards politics, some are disrespectful so I'm going to just say, no politics or hints of it, and be kind and respectful to others. I'm not deleting anything at this time, I realize the EV topic is hot and has opinions and it's new and some of us aren't open to change, some want to be on cutting edge and give something new a try, no matter what it's here, it's probably here to stay, it may be the way of the future, who knows, but it's fine to discuss and debate. But be friendly as if you're sitting around a campfire not throwing nuclear hot marshmallows at each other please! Let's have fun together which is why we come here.

So warning to those that need it above. If you can't reply with respect then please, do not reply to this thread and move on and help others or ask questions, the purpose of this community.

Thank you all.