Resolved Front door lock malfunction

[lostinfla]

No, and I feel a little stupid for not checking voltage there when I had the lock apart. Just drove today for a one nighter here in VA, then on to Two Rivers for a couple weeks. I'll have more time there to check it out.

 

[Neal]

Sounds good, just trying to do all possible to avoid getting an expensive keypad/handle contraption when it may be something more trivial. I still highly doubt that's bad as the key fob would work and I think you said it does not so the handle is bypassed in that test.

 

[lostinfla]

That what I thought but I believe the pad has more to do with the system than just relay codes.

 

[lostinfla]

Ok, after tearing apart the dash, passenger arm rest, door lock and grab handle, along with multiple calls to Trimark (Kevin who was VERY helpful) I finally got the system to work without buying anything! Turned out one of the large butt connectors under the dash (that Newmar had crimped with what looked like a needle nose pliers) had two red wires on one end pulling out. I reconnected the wires and system is back up. This was a 4 hour troubleshooting ordeal after driving 300 miles to get here. BTW, the system is on a 20a fuse in the front drivers side bin. I also found a15a fuse in an inline holder on this line buried deep behind the dash taped to a main harness. THANKS NEWMAR
. I was too tired at the time to crawl up in there to eliminate it, but at least I know it's there now.
Also, as a public service, I priced JUST the out side keypad from Newmar, 335.00 and change. Trimark, 99.00 + shipping. They have the entire handle assembly, 261.00!

 

[Texas Clodhopper]

Assume detective work.

 

[AbdRahim]

Awesome

 

[lostinfla]

One other thing, after putting the door lock back together, we decided to leave the coach. Closed the door and found out it wouldn't open again. The two halves of the mechanism were slightly misaligned not allowing the latch to actuate from the outside. So, now being stuck outside, I'm thinking I should have installed the power window wires in the front bin. Got it open pulling on the handle as hard as I could. Re adjusted so it works and the wires are going to be installed today!

 

[Neal]

One other thing, after putting the door lock back together, we decided to leave the coach. Closed the door and found out it wouldn't open again. The two halves of the mechanism were slightly misaligned not allowing the latch to actuate from the outside. So, now being stuck outside, I'm thinking I should have installed the power window wires in the front bin. Got it open pulling on the handle as hard as I could. Re adjusted so it works and the wires are going to be installed today!

Yepppp, refer to my advice

 

[lostinfla]

Yepppp, refer to my advice

Just as I was pulling on the handle, I actually was thinking about that. Wires installed this morning.

 

[JRS]

Yepppp, refer to my advice

Not sure about Jim's DS but unfortunately our drivers side window is electric..... Wish it were mechanical.

 

[redbaron]

Not sure about Jim's DS but unfortunately our drivers side window is electric..... Wish it were mechanical.

I added the wires to the bay below the electric driver window to be able to operate that window in an emergency lockout.

 

[J&JD]

I added the wires to the bay below the electric driver window to be able to operate that window in an emergency lockout.

As did I. Also suggest adding the cable pull to unlock the compartment below the window in case that was locked when the entry door wouldn’t open.

 

[Neal]

You can key unlock the basement doors don't forget. You could always just cut a big square in the roof and drop in from above.

 

[lostinfla]

Not sure about Jim's DS but unfortunately our drivers side window is electric..... Wish it were mechanical.

Electric. I installed wires from the switch to the front bay. If locked out, open the front bay and connect the two wires to the + & - on the fuse board to make the window go down.

 

[lostinfla]

As did I. Also suggest adding the cable pull to unlock the compartment below the window in case that was locked when the entry door wouldn’t open.

Yup, that too.

 

[Rd1]

climbing thru the window option?? why not thru the entry door? maybe a bit easier... this is what I figured out by accident.

I was in Nappanee and needed a spare entry key for the entrance door for some reason. The local hardware store did such a masterful job that the new key just would not work!! Great.. after further inspection, i realized the cuts look the same as the original key. However, they did not line up!!!! Brilliant.. So I had to pull the new key out about 2-3mm before attempting to turn and unlock the door!

So I gather, who would figure that out?? Unless there is a canary amongst you folks I should be safe. I never locked the tv compartment. Had the key hidden in there nicely, just in case...

 

[lostinfla]

That's ok until the door handle won't unlatch. Can happen if the torx screws loosen and the two plates miss align. Believe me, it can happen.