Handgun storage in your RV?

[Buly]

Number one if you get stopped:
Never volunteer with negative information.
Keep your mouth shut as much as you can.
Do not consent to a search no matter what. Let them do it against your refusal.
I have been stopped twice. Only once they asked if there are firearms. I said yes, they removed it from my holster, unloaded it , checked the ser. Number in the cruiser. Than put it on my back seat, and let me go.

 

[MapNerd]

In states where you are required to notify of ccw, it’s sort of a moot point as your ccw enables you to carry on your person in your vehicle - provided you are in the state where the ccw was issued or a state with reciprocity. If in a state where I don’t have reciprocity, I’m not sure I’d operate any differently other than not carrying directly on my person and possibly keeping my weapon out of my direct and immediate reach.

I’m not sure I agree with the notion that arrest and certainly not conviction is a matter of absolute certainty, that is, provided the following conditions are met:

1. you attempted to deescalate the situation peacefully without brandishing any weapons or making any threats
2. After being unsuccessful with condition 1, you attempted to retreat and/or vacate the area but were prevented from doing so by an aggressor
3. You OR your family are under a direct, physical assault AND the assault is is severe enough that there is a probable risk of severe AND/OR debilitating injury AND/OR loss of life
4. The assailant disregards direct, clear and concise demands to stop their assault while you are displaying your weapon

If all four of these conditions are met, in my mind the use of lethal force is justified. It is at this point that I’m willing to roll those dice and I feel confident that I will turn out okay.

there are certainly things to be said about skipping certain steps, especially step 2 when it comes to Stand Your Ground laws that some believe allow you to disregard condition 2, and that In my opinion is where things get subjective and murky.

The other area where things get vague is the Castle Doctrine and the use of lethal force to protect one’s property, which is not something I recommend. Legally, it is allowable but killing someone for stealing a TV, breaking a window, even burgling your home. Personally that’s not something I would do. I pay a lot of money to my insurance company and have no qualms about making them pay out a claim. If they want an armed guard to protect my covered assets, they can send one.

 

[CaptainGizmo]

At times I keep my handgun in the safe, locked. At times I keep it ready for self-defense. It is always stored unloaded with the clip out and to date it's been stored loose in a cabinet. I am looking at these magnetic mounts as an option to at least secure it from moving and also being able to put it on a wall of a cabinet free's up the floor for other things to store loosely and gets it out of the way and secures it from moving, scratches, etc. I can see one of these magnetic mounts for both the handgun and also magazines. Here are a few to consider, two of which I own but have not yet used.

Amazon.com: GMW Gun Magnet [2-Pack] | 30 lbs. Rating Magnetic Gun Mount | HQ Rubber Coated Gun Accessories Gun Magnet Buckler Series for Car, Truck, Desks, Safes, and Walls | Concealed Gun Holder for Handgun: Sports & Outdoors

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WCMNDZB/?tag=rvf01-20

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LXCJHKG/?tag=rvf01-20

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Neal, I have several of the Mag Keepers...one is mounted in my Home safe for holding mags. Will even hold a 17 round Glock (with the steel inserts).

In my RV, I also have one stuck to the side of my gun safe which is perfect to hold extra mags. This is a Liberty safe that’s kept in the overhead behind the driver. Good place to be fully accessible underway with slides in.

 

[Chuggs]

Since you stated that you keep the gun unloaded, and magazines out of the firearm...I am a bit less concerned. My concern is for those that don’t.

I have a DOA USP40CLEM and it has twelve in the mag, and one in the pipe. I therefore believe it Is most important to have it in a holster or sleeve that guards access to the trigger.

Even if I carry a pocket gun...it is in a neoprene sleeve, again...protecting the trigger.

I have a very, very well disciplined trigger finger from years of repetition...but one commonality in many accidental discharges...is grabbing a firearm that has an openly accessible trigger.

I think the magnet is a cool idea...but there are too many things about it that go counter to my gun safety philosophy. You can overcome most by changing habit...but I would have too many to change. I would have to get a holster with metal in it..instead of attaching a bare weapon. And I just don’t normally place a loaded, and unsecured (not locked) firearm of mine where it could, at times, be closer or more accessible to someone else.

And...a firearm should be stored “in a place and manner that, to the maximum extent practicable, prevents an unauthorized person, especially a child, from viewing it or gaining access to it.“

Here's the speed bump for unauthorized users:

 

[Joe Dutchstar]

Here is an interesting article on this subject Firearms Compliance for RVers | MotorHome Magazine

 

[Chuggs]

Great article.

 

[ManlyMan]

Once I decided to get a CCW license I also decided to get Concealed Carry Insurance that provides an attorney among other benefits. Is it a waste of money? Probably because the odds of having to defend yourself is ridiculously high. However it does provide some cheap peace of mind knowing you can call a lawyer 24/7/365.

When I’m travelling in states that don’t recognize my CCW I keep the gun unloaded and stored in the RV.

 

[CaptainGizmo]

While I agree, in theory, the problem is that if you have to use your firearm for self-defense, you are already in violation of the law. That means you will be arrested and charged. And, you will probably be convicted.

Aw heck, why not fan the flames...after all, I'm in SoCal and everything is burning, shaking, and will hopefully fall into the ocean soon anyways. LOL Maybe THEN, I'll get the message to move.

So TJ,

While I'm am NOWHERE NEAR being a lawyer, I have enough LEO friends who provide me with understanding and "gut instinct". So, when I read what you say here, my gut says..."HUH?"

I did a couple fact checks to see if I was missing something. Again, I'm in Kalifornia...but we do have a "stand your ground" and the fact is, as I understand, IF SHOOTING IN SELF-DEFENSE FROM DEADLY FORCE, then you are NOT in violation of the law, NOT subject to arrest, conviction, and jail time.

I hope someone will tell me I am 100% correct. I will reach out to my experts.

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

Aw heck, why not fan the flames...after all, I'm in SoCal and everything is burning, shaking, and will hopefully fall into the ocean soon anyways. LOL Maybe THEN, I'll get the message to move.

So TJ,

While I'm am NOWHERE NEAR being a lawyer, I have enough LEO friends who provide me with understanding and "gut instinct". So, when I read what you say here, my gut says..."HUH?"

I did a couple fact checks to see if I was missing something. Again, I'm in Kalifornia...but we do have a "stand your ground" and the fact is, as I understand, IF SHOOTING IN SELF-DEFENSE FROM DEADLY FORCE, then you are NOT in violation of the law, NOT subject to arrest, conviction, and jail time.

I hope someone will tell me I am 100% correct. I will reach out to my experts.

If you check the context of my comment, you will find that it was made in response to a comment that suggested (at least to me) that restrictive firearm storage requirements would be ignored if self-defense was necessary. My point was that while I agree that such restrictions are cumbersome, ignoring them also brings with it the possibility of prosecution.

Now, I know that if faced with the choice of defending myself or adhering to cumbersome restrictions that would prevent me from doing so, I would make choice #1. That said, I would also know that my life could become very difficult in that particular environment. The eventual outcome would likely depend on the common sense of a judge and/or jury; something that is not assured these days.

TJ

 

[CaptainGizmo]

If you check the context of my comment, you will find that it was made in response to a comment that suggested (at least to me) that restrictive firearm storage requirements would be ignored if self-defense was necessary. My point was that while I agree that such restrictions are cumbersome, ignoring them also brings with it the possibility of prosecution.

Now, I know that if faced with the choice of defending myself or adhering to cumbersome restrictions that would prevent me from doing so, I would make choice #1. That said, I would also know that my life could become very difficult in that particular environment. The eventual outcome would likely depend on the common sense of a judge and/or jury; something that is not assured these days.

TJ

Gotcha TJ...same team. ? I read your comment as to say “if you’ve used your gun in self defense, you’ve already broken the law and will be convicted.”

Here is another great reference to have on hand:

https://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USRVCarCarry-1.pdf

 

[Joe Dutchstar]

Here is a pistol mount/storage device that might be useful. Typically I do not load a round in the chamber of a Striker style pistol until it will be used. Some folks disagree with that approach, my choice.
This magnetic mount allows for a quick, single handed, movement when retrieving the pistol from the mount to charge the weapon (load a round in the chamber). Simple and quick. There are several brands on the market.

Amazon.com: GMW Gun Magnet, 43 lbs. Rating Quickdraw Fast Loader Holster, Cavalry Series Magnetic Gun Mount for Car, Truck, Desk, and Wall: Sports & Outdoors

And another brand with a video to show the charging movement.

 

[Buly]

Joe, that mount allows you to have empty chamber. it is designed, so you can just push forward and feed a round before getting it out of the mount. No need for two hands. Very well thought out.

 

[RKins]

Once I decided to get a CCW license I also decided to get Concealed Carry Insurance that provides an attorney among other benefits. Is it a waste of money? Probably because the odds of having to defend yourself is ridiculously high. However it does provide some cheap peace of mind knowing you can call a lawyer 24/7/365.

When I’m travelling in states that don’t recognize my CCW I keep the gun unloaded and stored in the RV.

Do you mean ridiculously low?

 

[ManlyMan]

Do you mean ridiculously low?

No, I mean high. Low odds means an event is likely while high odds means unlikely. Many people get this confused. It's not a fraction.

 

[AbdRahim]

This was the topic of a lengthy conversation with a bunch of (off duty) game wardens in south Texas on a BBQ/beer night. The conclusions:

1. If it's rolling, it's a vehicle.
2. If it's parked, it's a house.
3. Motorhomes are generally too difficult to stop for minor stuff (safe place to pull over, can be dangerous to get the driver's attention, etc).
4. Open bottle of wine in the refrigerator - who really cares, can't reach it from the driver seat.
5. One person advocated that if the driver didn't have a gun, to issue one.

Except for the tornados and heat I love Texas.