Newmar King Aire fire

[No Plan]

As an update to this unfortunate situation I was made privy recently, not disclosing my source, to what caused this incident. It was not brake related... the ensuing fire was caused by a catastrophic engine implosion.

 

[osuallen]

Implosion?? Pretty difficult to experience implosion on an ICE engine

 

[team bradfield]

As an update to this unfortunate situation I was made privy recently, not disclosing my source, to what caused this incident. It was not brake related... the ensuing fire was caused by a catastrophic engine implosion.

That can't happen, totally YT bullshit

 

[No Plan]

From the pictures I saw of the shrapnel from the engine being held in an individual's hand, an implosion would be my best description.

 

[No Plan]

Okay gentlemen, obviously you know more about this incident than what I was told by an individual involved in this incident... Carry on.

 

[redbaron]

Ponder this:

Mechanical failure of catastrophic nature while using engine brake.

Would be the same damage as when under power except the location and the sudden loss of air for brakes when you need control the most.

If it did have a catastrophic there is no doubt it would cause severe problems in properly stopping on that incline.

 

[Neal]

Folks, some responses in this thread are not showing us how we can represent human kind as good people and kind people. While you/we may be shocked and some caught up on terms, maybe catastrophic engine failure is the better description vs. implode, explode, spontaneously combust, etc. etc.

What I'm more interested in as the investigation continues is what was the cause. Was it a Cummins failure or a Spartan failure and exactly where/what failed. This needs to be determined as to the cause of the fire and tragic loss of a very expensive vehicle and what could have been loss of life.

I've spoken to the source and know the source of the information which is not desired to be shared to protect those involved. Let's not shoot the messenger and let's see if we can learn more from this to prevent this from happening to anyone else. That's what accident investigations are for with aircraft, transportation accidents, etc. This investigation must continue to find the cause.

 

[Holdmybeer]

That can't happen, totally YT bullshit

It could happen if the GPS has you driving around in the Marianas Trench.

 

[Kevin D Pem]

One comment I saw on facebook was a owner that was not using the engine brakes because they heard that the air brakes in the mountains cause over heating. Instead they just use the foot pedal.

This comment did get a lot of feedback as you might assume, but it struck me how many people are clueless. They just do not know the mechanics of what they are driving, and since no education is required, it is as bad as the flip flop wearing non-english speaking California licensed truck drivers that killed 3 people in Florida making an illegal u-turn.

There really should be a solution that addresses all drivers, regardless of vehicles. I am all for written tests and proving that you can operate the vehicle you are towing.

How many of us had a proper drivers license before driving the class of RV we own? I sure didn't. My first was a 5th wheel that requires a non-commerical class A drivers license and a 1 ton dually at minimum. I was sent on my way with a short bed 3/4 ton and didn't know any better. I thought I did good getting home without damage.

It wasn't until my 3rd Class A that I decided to get my non-commerical class B license, and by then I had already driven 100k miles with vehicles that required at least that.

Until we get enforcement of the existing laws, no new laws will help.

I personally am in favor of the Darwin award method of inforcement!! Of course that makes me a constitutionallist.

Everyone that wants to know how to drive responsibly has learned by studying and asking questions.

 

[sanda]

The only problem with your Darwin method is they usually take out others.

 

[Kevin D Pem]

Not my method! I don't need a test to study how to be as safe as possible, and do no harm when possible. Neal is on mark! Learning from other people and events make you better at whatever your endeavor!

I'm still wondering where in the matrix you are free from the ultimate demise.

 

[DavidL]

I'm offering $100 for anyone that can provide a picture of @redbaron in flip flops or sandals (no crocs) at a truck stop! Be on the lookout!

If I was more familiar with "AI Photo Tools"...this would be a good one to create