Travel Warning!!! (Phoenix area)

[Kevin D Pem]

Stay out of Phoenix AZ. The coliseum is along I-10 west of downtown Phoenix where the audit is taking place. The BLM and antifa are moving in and the area should be avoided in your travel this summer.

 

[FL-JOE]

What audit? IRS set up out there? Since when is the Bureau Of Land Management and ANTIFA joined up?

 

[Kevin D Pem]

I see you moved this. I would like to remind you there are Travelers that read this forum that should also get this important information

 

[Kevin D Pem]

What audit? IRS set up out there? Since when is the Bureau Of Land Management and ANTIFA joined up?

election audit, Maricopa

 

[Neal]

I see you moved this. I would like to remind you there are Travelers that read this forum that should also get this important information

It's been moved again to the Trip Planning forum. If this triggers any heat related to politics, election, etc. it's going private or going away.

Thank you for the heads up to help others learn of hot zones for potential rioter type activity. Let's keep this thread as just that, an advisory for the Phoenix area as I also adjusted the title to be less nebulous and that this warning is for the Phoenix area.

 

[ArmyOfSquirrels]

Thank you for the heads up. It was only a matter of time before the desperate to stop the audit people got riots involved. Hopefully AZ is not like the rest of these places that lets their cities burn down while the police are ordered to "give them space" like in Baltimore. Do you have to stop for protestors blocking HWYs and other non-pedestrian roadways in AZ? I'm a combat vet and I wouldn't stop for kids overseas because of the IEDs and Ambushes I certainly won't be stopped for a mob that's known for violence and chaos. Best to avoid the area of course that's the safest way to deal with unrest.

 

[redbaron]

As we travel this summer, we are planning to use the same caution we did last year. No trips thru large cities with the RV. Sticking to good old rural USA.

 

[Retired]

Sad that trip planning in the USA is like trip planning in a Banana Republic...................................

 

[redbaron]

Sad that trip planning in the USA is like trip planning in a Banana Republic...................................

Only in very small portions of the country. We are going to be traveling from Texas thru Colorado, Utah, Idaho, Washington, and Montana. The most direct routes are thru major cities, which even when there is no concern for "bad actors" the travel is less than desirable. I really detest driving a large bus towing thru a major rush hour traffic.

The scenic routes offer much better views. In addition, the scenic routes allow my stress level to remain low, so that I am enjoyable to be around.

When trip planning for RV travels, very rarely do you need the fastest, most direct route. Enjoy the journey!

 

[ArmyOfSquirrels]

Only in very small portions of the country. We are going to be traveling from Texas thru Colorado, Utah, Idaho, Washington, and Montana. The most direct routes are thru major cities, which even when there is no concern for "bad actors" the travel is less than desirable. I really detest driving a large bus towing thru a major rush hour traffic.

The scenic routes offer much better views. In addition, the scenic routes allow my stress level to remain low, so that I am enjoyable to be around.

When trip planning for RV travels, very rarely do you need the fastest, most direct route. Enjoy the journey!

Absolutely. Hit those country roads, I need to avoid traffic and stress as well when traveling. I mostly drive over nights and sleep during the day. Sucks whenever I have to get up to do something before 10am but I like the 1300-0420 sleep pattern. It puts me on an overlap of most peoples schedules but I tend to be less stressed in dealing with others during those times.

 

[Kevin D Pem]

I think it is just a growl, I think they may have been de-fanged, but better safe than sorry. I learned that the best way to travel such a large country is go the fast route to the location desired then do the blue roads. My intent was to light the way to avoid the foot deep pothole.

 

[ArmyOfSquirrels]

I think it is just a growl, I think they may have been de-fanged, but better safe than sorry. I learned that the best way to travel such a large country is go the fast route to the location desired then do the blue roads. My intent was to light the way to avoid the foot deep pothole.

I could see that especially if you are not a FULL TIMER, and have a limited amount of time. However I've seen a few youtubers now say the journey is just as important and the memories you make during the journey are just as memorable as the ones you make at the campsite. To each their own. Thank you for making us aware of the potential dangers in the area due to unrest. I fear these are now common place tactics that will be deployed throughout the country as more and more places push back against the current goings ons in the WH. Stay safe out there everyone.

 

[ArmyOfSquirrels]

*Sarcasm* Wonder if Uncle Joe would support "going out to the roof of the RV and blasting off two shots into the sky" with one of these lmao sorry couldn't resist

Edit* Thats a rough quote he said balcony not roof of the RV.

 

[Joe Hogan]

Here is a source for planned “events” in the Phoenix metro area.

Red Tide or Blue Wave, Americans Stay Poor

America is not destined for a civil war, but a civil reckoning. Our politics will be the last to reflect it.

azroots.info

 

[ArmyOfSquirrels]

Here is a source for planned “events” in the Phoenix metro area.

Red Tide or Blue Wave, Americans Stay Poor

America is not destined for a civil war, but a civil reckoning. Our politics will be the last to reflect it.

azroots.info

We’ll be following COVID-19 precautions, so please wear a mask! Feel free to bring signs and please stay hydrated!

Have never seen them without a mask they were wearing them before it was cool lmao. They have a crap ton of events planned let's hope they do so peacefully.

 

[Kevin D Pem]

We’ll be following COVID-19 precautions, so please wear a mask! Feel free to bring signs and please stay hydrated!

Have never seen them without a mask they were wearing them before it was cool lmao. They have a crap ton of events planned let's hope they do so peacefully.

If there are un-permitted carnivals next to the Colosseum who is to say that the event will be permitted?

 

[ArmyOfSquirrels]

Ive never liked the idea you need a permit to hold an event. Is that not the point of holding peaceful gatherings? I get with covid going on but these rules have been around a lot longer than covid. I guess I'm to old school when people respected others and their things (like pavilions and such) Now they could trash it and no one would know who did it and it would fall on the owner to clean it up and repair any damages. Shame that its turned out this way. Leave no trace is more than a camping/offroading slogan.

 

[FL-JOE]

Gottcha. Forgot all that was going on.

I see you moved this. I would like to remind you there are Travelers that read this forum that should also get this important information

I totally agree with not moving this. I suspect it was moved because someone thought it could get into politics?

In the last couple of days we towed through Mobile, Montgomery, Birmingham, and Nashville. What if I had experienced a traffic stoppage due to demonstrators blocking the highway, would me posting a warning about such an experience be moved to our private section? Don't we as an RV "community" want our members to be aware of possible problems developing in areas they may be traveling close to?

I guess I'm not understanding why Kevin's post is being hidden from our general membership.

 

[FL-JOE]

Our travel plans this year include the same precautions as they did last year, and I appreciate these types of warnings that Kevin posted.

We have been watching local news feeds a lot closer before a days travel. I would have no problem re-routing hundreds of miles around a city to avoid any type of planned "peaceful" demonstration or similar event that is announced. IMHO as the summer goes on many of these things will get out of hand due to the inability of law enforcement to respond.

 

[Kevin D Pem]

Ive never liked the idea you need a permit to hold an event. Is that not the point of holding peaceful gatherings? I get with covid going on but these rules have been around a lot longer than covid. I guess I'm to old school when people respected others and their things (like pavilions and such) Now they could trash it and no one would know who did it and it would fall on the owner to clean it up and repair any damages. Shame that its turned out this way. Leave no trace is more than a camping/offroading slogan.

I would prefer permits for any events I plan to attend. Why, proper waste disposal, enough law enforcement for the volume of people that might attend, enough porta heads for the needs that come up. IMHO only events where the organizers would like to see things go south don't get permits.