2003 Holiday Rambler endeavor no 110 power in front of coach.

[TXfreeze]

We recently got this coach and we have had no known issues with the shore power, today we had a hot plate plugged in on a 50 amp system not worrying about overloading the system but apparently we must have because we tripped the circuit that the refrigerator is on. After resetting the breaker the power did not come back. It's odd though because the air conditioning power is working and the microwave oven power is working. In addition to the GFC outlet that is by the bathroom sink and there is no reset response, The only outlets that are not working are the kitchen outlets and the dining room outlet and TV outlet which is pretty much all the front outlets. I thought maybe it was a bad breaker so I swapped out the 20 amp breaker for the water heater breaker and the frig breake, the water heater works just fine but still don't have any power so it's likely a short in the wiring? Will a RV repair be able to address this issue or do we need to call an electrician? One thing that I just remembered whenever the breaker for the refrigerator, is tripped whether it's on or off you can hear a distinct clicking sound coming from the breaker box on the right hand side of the circuit board with a green light what is that and could it be related to the issue? AttAched are a couple photos in case they help. Thanks

 

[Kevin D Pem]

Did you reset by turning the breaker off then back on? You must turn off for it to reset!

 

[Kevin D Pem]

As an aside! It appears the 30 amp breaker feeds two 12??? AWG wires ! How unsafe is that!!! Fix My vision please!

 

[TXfreeze]

Did you reset by turning the breaker off then back on? You must turn off for it to reset!

Several times no go swapped GFI still nothing my guess is the high amperage from the hot plate fried the circuit?

 

[TXfreeze]

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As an aside! It appears the 30 amp breaker feeds two 12??? AWG wires ! How unsafe is that!!! Fix My vision please!

I did noice that, it''s the breaker for washer and dryer which we don't have. Well I'm still really stumped why we don't have power in the front of the coach if we did overload the circuit the breaker tripped and did its job so why would there be any damage? Also if if prior owners had wired the GFCI outlet incorrectly would that mean that the outlet would not work properly and would the GFIC need to be reset in this case given the fact that the refrigerator breaker tripped? I'm trying to avoid having to get an electrician or RV repari here r but if I can't come up with some solid troubleshooting here I'm not going to have an option. Thanks

 

[Scooterfan]

Do you have an inverter ? Same thing happened to me and I found the inverter had "tripped". IF you have an inverter, and IF you can find the reset button (mine was a small red button), give it a reset. Hope you track this down. Blessings

 

[TXfreeze]

Do you have an inverter ? Same thing happened to me and I found the inverter had "tripped". IF you have an inverter, and IF you can find the reset button (mine was a small red button), give it a reset. Hope you track this down. Blessings

Yes we do have a inverter, there is no red reset button on it it's a Xantrex Combi, there is a small switch box next to it I flipped the switch I didn't change anything, would have to disconnect the power source from the inverter which I've done before on our other RV there must be a way to reset it without having to disconnect it? I'll have to consult the manual ones and see what it says, thanks

 

[Kevin D Pem]

Several times no go swapped GFI still nothing my guess is the high amperage from the hot plate fried the circuit?

There are likely two GFCI circuits. Bathroom is typically one kitchen the other. May be more!

Rather than re-read the post. Are you on shore power, or inverter? On inverter some schemes opt for load sheading! Nessisary circuits only!

 

[TXfreeze]

There are likely two GFCI circuits. Bathroom is typically one kitchen the other. May be more!

Rather than re-read the post. Are you on shore power, or inverter? On inverter some schemes opt for load sheading! Nessisary circuits only!

Yes the other GFCI is in the outdoor entertainment system but it has no reset or test button. I’m on shore power inverter won’t work because of the other 12v issue.

 

[Kevin D Pem]

May I suggest disconnecting the battery from the system and charging them to see if they will charge and hold a charge? A shorted cell can bring the whole system down.

Do you know if the inverter is aftermarket?

 

[TXfreeze]

May I suggest disconnecting the battery from the system and charging them to see if they will charge and hold a charge? A shorted cell can bring the whole system down.

Do you know if the inverter is aftermarket?

Yes that’s what the manual says about a shorted cell and I was thinking about doing just that .

 

[TXfreeze]

May I suggest disconnecting the battery from the system and charging them to see if they will charge and hold a charge? A shorted cell can bring the whole system down.

Do you know if the inverter is aftermarket?

Yes that’s what my next is going to be and the manual actually recommends it. It’s a Xantrex inverter so I don’t think it’s aftermarket.

 

[Scooterfan]

I believe the inverter has a reset button...sometimes they are crazy hard to find. Google the make and model, maybe YouTube it and you'll find it. Good luck partner. Blessings

 

[Kevin D Pem]

Yes that’s what my next is going to be and the manual actually recommends it. It’s a Xantrex inverter so I don’t think it’s aftermarket.

When I say after market I should be more clear!

Does it appear DIY? I can buy almost any brand inverter and install it DIY.

 

[TXfreeze]

When I say after market I should be more clear!

Does it appear DIY? I can buy almost any brand inverter and install it DIY.

Hmm, I don't think so I think it's factory, in fact the manual describes the same inverter. On a side note, I checked non-contact current detector and the refrigerator breaker when on, is hot, does that mean there's a short somewhere in that circuit?

 

[Kevin D Pem]

No it means there is current there (breaker on)

 

[TXfreeze]

No it means there is current there (breaker on)

But that current isn't getting to the outlets, so doesn't that indicate a short somewhere?

 

[Kevin D Pem]

But that current isn't getting to the outlets, so doesn't that indicate a short somewhere?

More likely an open, not a short. A short would no allow breaker reset!

As an aside someplace in that rig you should have two master GFICs many outlets can be daisy chained per GFIC, but you should find two masters. (resetable/testable)

 

[TXfreeze]

More likely an open, not a short. A short would no allow breaker reset!

As an aside someplace in that rig you should have two master GFICs many outlets can be daisy chained per GFIC, but you should find two masters. (resetable/testable)

Well so far I ly found one resettable and it won't reset, could have been replaced and the load and line were mixed up?

 

[Kevin D Pem]

Well so far I ly found one resettable and it won't reset, could have been replaced and the load and line were mixed up?

Look for an appliance that may be causing the problem.