2021 Newmar Predictions

[Neal]

Okay folks, what are your guesses as to what's coming in 2021 for Newmar Motorhomes? First year officially under Winnebago.

I've been thinking for some time what will Newmar do in 2021 and come up empty this year but here are a few of my inputs/guesses:

1. Higher prices. Yes, I expect another price increase, the economy is strong and I think the RV industry is still holding strong.
2. I really hope we do not see W branding on Newmar coaches at all!
3. With @redbaron post about SPwill we be seeing a dominance of FL for chassis options? Will SP still be a choice? King Aire on a FL coming?
   1. I've heard W doesn't do SP, will we see changes along this line start to occur with W ownership?
4. DSDP with a higher HP engine, it's time! And hopefully a front axle change so that it doesn't come off the line with the front axle at limits

 

[FLSteve]

I will be interested in seeing if they will offer the 4081 floor plan in the Mountain Aire line.

FLSteve

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[TJ&LadyDi]

2021 might be a little early, but how long before we see EV motorhomes? With Newmar's history of innovation, could they be the first with a truly "all-electric" coach. Freightliner, Volvo and Tesla (among others) are well into the development stage of electric semi trucks and, with the push to move away from fossil fuels, how long will it be until our diesel-powered behemoths are a thing of the past?

If you think about it, a motorhome would be a great platform for electric drive. We already use battery power for the coach, so an enhanced battery package could also provide drive power. And, we have generators aboard that could be used for emergency charging (yeah, they would still need a little diesel, but not too much).

Don't forget, you heard it here first!

TJ

 

[sheridany]

Dear Elon, meet Team @TJ&LadyDi. A little competition never hurts.

 

[FSU Camper]

Only a guess... 2021 DSDP will feature a much larger rear view camera screen and radio/ nav screen in a newly redesigned front dash.

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

Dear Elon, meet Team @TJ&LadyDi. A little competition never hurts.

The 2023 TJ Electron-40 luxury all-electric coach is on the drawing board! Stand by for a stock prospectus.

TJ

 

[NWIP]

Should start with the Essex so you have all the bugs worked out by 2027 for @Neal

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

Should start with the Essex so you have all the bugs worked out by 2027 for @Neal

Since "Essex" is a trade-marked brand name owned by Newmar, @NWIP, I can't use it. Rest assured, however, the "Electron-40" will be a "Ventessex" in all but name. Gonna put it on a Spartan chassis just for @Neal!

 

[J&JD]

How about Teslessex

 

[Stuart W]

With regards to RedBaron’s post, I see this increasing the visibility of Spartan chassis in the RV world. From the Spartan press rel
Accordingly, the Company will be changing its corporate name in the coming months, subject to shareholder approval. REVG has licensed the "Spartan" name and the “Spartan diamond” logo back to the Company for use in the Company's RV chassis business.
As always it depends on are you buying or selling ?

 

[deaton]

I will be interested in seeing if they will offer the 4081 floor plan in the Mountain Aire line.

FLSteve

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Ditto.

But with my new 4081 DS being delivered next week, I shudder to think the temptation I would be facing to upgrade.


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[deaton]

Only a guess... 2021 DSDP will feature a much larger rear view camera screen and radio/ nav screen in a newly redesigned front dash.

Way overdue.


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[deaton]

I don’t want to upset all the Essex lovers out there and I personally have nothing against that brand. However, I have felt for a while now that Newmar’s DP lineup is a bit too deep.

I mean, do they really need eight different brands?

Do they really need three with 605 HP engines. Is the demand for those big engines that strong?

And any buyer who is walking around with Essex money likely has an extra $100k for King Aire money.

Couple that with a fact I picked up from a Newmar VP at a Newmar rally a year or so ago that Essex was the poorest selling DP in terms of quantity and I think there may be a chance that it will eventually be dropped.

If I’m right, sorry Neal, it’s a King Aire for you.


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[Neal]

Blasphemy, I can't even bring myself to quote said post.

 

[deaton]

DSDP with a higher HP engine, it's time! And hopefully a front axle change so that it doesn't come off the line with the front axle at limits

As much as I like the idea of 500 HP in a DS, I can see a few problems with this idea.

1. The bigger engine would require a heavier duty chassis.

2. Would need bigger radiator.

3. Would need Allison 4000.

Oh, wait, that’s a Mountain Aire.

 

[Neal]

New design to front caps. Not a fan of the last few years post 2018 I think is where it changed.

 

[NWIP]

Only 2 years into the new design so think it will be another 2-3 years. Wasn’t a big fan when they changed front/rear cap but now I love it ?

 

[Neal]

As much as I like the idea of 500 HP in a DS, I can see a few problems with this idea.

1. The bigger engine would require a heavier duty chassis.

2. Would need bigger radiator.

3. Would need Allison 4000.

Oh, wait, that’s a Mountain Aire.

Newmar would be better served with a 500 HP DSDP and discontinue the MADP.

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

Really? Mountain Aire and Dutch Star are the two original names Newmar used when it moved into the Class A market. Why would it want to discontinue either one. If the Dutch Star needs 500 HP, a stronger frame, huskier transmission, etc., then it is just re-creating what it already has in the Mountain Aire.

If you want to simplify the model line, drop the London Aire and either the Essex or King Aire. Then, you would have three distinct market segments represented and it could more easily maintain market separation.

A further brand consolidation could occur if Newmar were to drop the Ventana or Kountry Aire model.

All that said, it will be academic when the TJ "Electro" series hits the market in a few years! We plan to have a 100% market share within the first year.

TJ

 

[FLSteve]

• Mountain Aire
• London Aire
• Essex
• King Aire

I think there is a chance that one of these could drop off … my uneducated guess is the Mountain Aire or Essex. I really like that the Mountain Aire still offers some 40' floor plans. That could save it.

FLSteve