Resolved 30amp 110 Fuse box overheating, wires burnt

[Kevin D Pem]

If 30 amp breaker is the question,it is tripped.turn all the way off then on to reset. The other two are in off position.

 

[Kevin D Pem]

I looked up breaker output terminal and couldn't come up anything definitive, so in the case of this breaker box, where is the breaker output terminal located? I forgot to mention when I try he fan switch on the AC I can hear click from the blower I guess, no idea if that may be an indicator of something? It's late I will resume tomorrow and check it, Goodnight

Where the wire lug is

 

[Kevin D Pem]

Where the wire lug is

Where the wire is attached

 

[GTS225]

Except that those are rated at 20 A for 12 gauge maximum wire. We were initially talking about 10 gauge and 30 amps.
Still a good thing to have around.

Roger

Btw, they make them in line now.

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[TXfreeze]

Where the wire is attached

Gotta double check but I'm certain it's reading 122, therefore breaker is good, I'll answer the other question about that white wire going to neutral as soon as I can look at the before picture I probably can't say it's function but I may be able to deduce it.

 

[TXfreeze]

If 30 amp breaker is the question,it is tripped.turn all the way off then on to reset. The other two are in off position.

It won't trip and resetting has no effect so I'm thinking it's safe to say the breaker is not in question or the issue .

 

[TXfreeze]

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What is this white wire second screw from the left. Original photo showed that bar as the ground buss.

I believe it's the wire coming from left harness that I disconnected to strip, in the photos it appears to be the same wire, but looks longer in the second picture it could be because I pulled out more wire from the harness, I remember there was some slack on at least one of the wires.The first picture could be after I trimmed the burnt part and landed the wire back in the bus. Yes that is what it is because I just checked the sequence of photos andbthe 1st one here comes after the 2nd one if that makes sense.

 

[Kevin D Pem]

Should be landed on the other buss bar

 

[TXfreeze]

Should be landed on the other buss bar

Hmm, I see where I went wrong I referred to a picture after I removed the wire from the vertical bus bar, that is where my confusion lies apparently my before picture was taken after I removed the wire to trim it, that's the only logical explanation considering the sequence of photos and events. So now I can deduce that given the vertical bar is the ground bar if I understand correctly, that wire is going to neutral and not ground therefore just like in a 12v system, no groun, no power, correct that and there should be power?

 

[Kevin D Pem]

Hmm, I see where I'm went wrong I referred to a picture after I removed the wire from the vertical bus bar, that is where my confusion lies apparently my before picture was taken after I removed the wire to trim it, that's the only logical explanation considering the sequence of photos and events. So now I can deduce that given the vertical bar is the ground bar if I understand correctly, that wire is going to neutral and ground therefore, no ground and no power?

As stated earlier, white is common or insulated ground.

Following pictures to re-wire works till it doesn't. Understanding the practice always works. That was the reason for my previous posting.

 

[TXfreeze]

As stated earlier, white is common or insulated ground.

Following pictures to re-wire works till it doesn't. Understanding the practice always works. That was the reason for my previous posting.

Gotcha, it sticks out like a sore thumb and now I realize what's wrong with that picture, lesson learned it's a white ground wire (and just like with 12v, no ground = no power) that should be landed on a ground bus not neutral that makes total sense and I appreciate that. One thing I'm not sure about, does it matter where it's landed on the bar or so long as it's the ground bar? As you can see in the photo I did take a before photo but I neglected to share it and didn't realize I had taken it.

 

[Kevin D Pem]

Gotcha, it sticks out like a sore thumb and now I realize what's wrong with that picture, lesson learned it's a white ground wire (and just like with 12v, no ground = no power) that should be landed on a ground bus not neutral that makes total sense and I appreciate that. One thing I'm not sure about, does it matter where it's landed on the bar or so long as it's the ground bar? As you can see in the photo I did take a before photo but I neglected to share it and didn't realize I had taken it.View attachment 24755

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[TXfreeze]

Update,.White ground wire was the only problem, corrected and I'm happy to report we are.back on 30 amp hookup. To those who advised call an electrician, if I had I would never have.learned what I did know now. So thanks but no thanks.

 

[GTS225]

Update,.White ground wire was the only problem, corrected and I'm happy to report we are.back on 30 amp hookup. To those who advised call an electrician, if I had I would never have.learned what I did know now. So thanks but no thanks.

Now, how can ya argue with that.

In our defense, we did get the initial impression that the problem was more involved than it actually was. (The inherent problem of trying to "fix" something through a computer connection, rather than being there with hands-on.)
I also got the impression that you were less-than-familiar with the electrical arts, and that stuff will kill you if you make a bad mistake. It appears that my judgement was a bit harsh.

Roger

 

[Kevin D Pem]

Update,.White ground wire was the only problem, corrected and I'm happy to report we are.back on 30 amp hookup. To those who advised call an electrician, if I had I would never have.learned what I did know now. So thanks but no thanks.

Glad to hear it's resolved, letting us know that helps others with the same problem,so thanks for that.

As for your other statement!!! Well without knowing it you did call an electrician!