CA strikes again with CARB ACT

[redbaron]

The solution is simple. The new EPA administrator should simply revoke the waiver under the Clean Air Act that allows CARB (a State agency) to preempt Federal Laws (ie Clean Air Act).

See this link for details. Elections matter.

Or Doge may do it for us.

 

[turbopilot]

Or Doge may do it for us.

I would like to see the priority list for DOGE. So much to do and only two years to do it.

 

[Kevin D Pem]

Or the SCOTUS reversal of the Chevron Deference may play a part! Who knows.

 

[redbaron]

Here is what the chevron doctrine is according to google ai summary:

 

[Voyageurs]

Lithium mining doesn't use much petroleum when they are using slave labor to produce it.

Most lithium cones from Australia and Chile.

 

[redbaron]

Most lithium cones from Australia and Chile.

And chile uses slave and child labor.

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www.dol.gov

 

[Voyageurs]

And chile uses slave and child labor.

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www.dol.gov

As per your link, the mining industry has not been problematic.

Are you suggesting we stop using lithium in products?

 

[redbaron]

As per your link, the mining industry has not been problematic.

Are you suggesting we stop using lithium in products?

Just suggesting that lithium is not a clean energy.

Takes more petroleum to bring it to market and manufacture components than it saves in its life span.

It has its place, as I don’t want a gas powered laptop, but for cars it’s not a market viable solution. We need to get off petroleum but lithium isn’t the solution.

The mines destroy the land, and the slave labor and corruption around the industry is terrible.

And of course there is the new attack on legitimate land owners in the us that are having floods and storms used as a way to take their land so that lithium can be mined for profit of greedy corporations.

 

[redbaron]

Chilis indigenous people are losing natural water due to corporate greed and lithium mining. This is driven by CARB mandates for battery powered cars ands it’s killing the ecosystem and the local people.

Lithium Mining Is Leaving Chile’s Indigenous Communities High and Dry (Literally)

As the metal fuels the clean tech boom, companies race to mine the Atacama Region. At stake: fragile ecosystems, scarce water resources, and ancient ways of life.

www.nrdc.org

 

[Neal]

Is nuclear power "clean energy"? I would imagine the radioactivity aspect is not clean. Yet we need it, and IMHO need more nuclear power plants across the country. Harnessing the power from the sun I personally think is a good idea but yeah, we are seeing affects from it supposedly but there is a lot of energy coming from the sun that may be better than alternatives. Sure, we'd all like to live in a way that none of this has to happen, but what are the options? I would imagine our power consumption from computers and phones becoming widespread from the 90's drastically affected power grids, increased population and homes required, on and on. While we can attack any energy source, we have to figure out what's the lesser evil I suppose, but we need and always will need "more power."