Alert New Vehicle Law, Kill Switches

[Joe Hogan]

 

[Jim]

Government abuse? They wouldn't do that. Come one, man.

 

[Joe Hogan]

This is one thing about our Teslas that is of concern. Essentially the vehicle can be GeoFenced with a forced software update or disabled. Tesla as long as Elon is in charge, I trust.
My fuel is the sun for the most part so that will be hard to regulate. The New Tesla app can force the Tesla charger to use only spare solar power during the day to charge the vehicle. Essentially 100% sun powered.

There are other things that are more insidious. Tesla insurance increases premiums if you drive between 10 pm and 4 or 5 am. Risk during the night time hours increases on average. Even if you are not bar hopping others on the road might be so the vehicle environment is higher risk. The old adage, nothing good happens in the dark of the night.

So you might not be banned from driving here or there, it just might be economically painful. Like the $49 toll to use the streets of lower manhattan.

In your Tesla with Tesla ins. 3rd shift premium just became less attractive.

The listening in on vehicle conversations and recording video, that is a problem for me. Too easy to abuse that one. Even Tesla employees got caught peeking in on XX videos caught on vehicle cameras...

 

[Kevin D Pem]

This is one thing about our Teslas that is of concern. Essentially the vehicle can be GeoFenced with a forced software update or disabled. Tesla as long as Elon is in charge, I trust.
My fuel is the sun for the most part so that will be hard to regulate. The New Tesla app can force the Tesla charger to use only spare solar power during the day to charge the vehicle. Essentially 100% sun powered.

There are other things that are more insidious. Tesla insurance increases premiums if you drive between 10 pm and 4 or 5 am. Risk during the night time hours increases on average. Even if you are not bar hopping others on the road might be so the vehicle environment is higher risk. The old adage, nothing good happens in the dark of the night.

So you might not be banned from driving here or there, it just might be economically painful. Like the $49 toll to use the streets of lower manhattan.

In your Tesla with Tesla ins. 3rd shift premium just became less attractive.

The listening in on vehicle conversations and recording video, that is a problem for me. Too easy to abuse that one. Even Tesla employees got caught peeking in on XX videos caught on vehicle cameras...

Yah, what bothers me most is the human microwave thing going on in EVs.

 

[GypsyR]

GM's Onstar program has quietly already had the kill switch ability for quite a few years now. Since in the late 1990's actually.

 

[AbdRahim]

Good revenue for old mechanics to keep ancient vehicles going. I actually hate all of this new technology and control even more.

 

[Kevin D Pem]

Good revenue for old mechanics to keep ancient vehicles going. I actually hate all of this new technology and control even more.

The coral was fenced quite a few years ago (cash for clunkers), now they only need to close the gate!!! Older cars are hard to find today because people could not see the intent.

 

[Joe Hogan]

One reason we will hold on to the 2018 Ford for a while.

 

[GypsyR]

I can go even more retro. An '81 VW diesel pickup. You can take my battery AND alternator out. I can still jump the fuel solenoid and with the help of couple of friends or a hill, bump start it. And then drive it until it runs out out of fuel. No lights, turn signals, or any of that but it will go. No electricity involved or needed. An unlikely scenario but I can do it.

 

[Bigblockyeti]

I drove a '93 International flatbed w/hoist for a couple summers during college and it would do the same, it had a non-electronic DT466 with an Eaton 6 speed manual behind it. With only 200hp and under 500lbft of torque, it was a dog most of the time but it never failed to start. No fuel solenoid either, it had a cable actuate fuel shut off in the dash by the starter switch.

 

[DennisT]

Want another 1984 Ford Escort diesel.

50 mpg around town even while filled with firewood.

Between 65 and 70 mpg on the highway.

Sat outside in upstate New York winters and never failed to start.

 

[Rosy]

One reason we will hold on to the 2018 Ford for a while.

You really think that truck doesn't have enough onboard electronics for someone to disable it if they want to?

 

[Joe Hogan]

Luckily I have access to the electronics through a OEM grade analysis tool. It would be a hard fought battle….

 

[sanda]

The coral was fenced quite a few years ago (cash for clunkers), now they only need to close the gate!!! Older cars are hard to find today because people could not see the intent.

And cash for clunkers was a major disaster to the working poor because they could not find vehicles they could afford.

 

[Joe Hogan]

as much as I’d like an old mechanical diesel to satisfy the Prepper in me, the available storage space just will not allow yet another vehicle.
Gail has strongly disliked every diesel I’ve owned over the years, hoping she can accept the DP into the fleet.
The 300Ds are just too much work to keep running, maybe an old diesel Rabbit someday.