Problem Round 2. ding ding

[Rustycoach]

I just check my bolts today. Coach was built in February of 2022, purchased in October. All bolts had lost their torque, not loose but they easily took a 1/4 turn to tighten. I did not remove to put red LT on yet as I will be ordering three sets of the stage 8 bolts first.
As to the amperage adjustment, I have not done it but you should be able to find the procedure in the owner manual for the system in your records bag somewhere. I saw a you tube video as well last night where a guy goes thru several trouble shooting scenarios. A Newmar dealer service guy does the video.
Good luck

 

[lostinfla]

I left the covers off the motors in the bins just to make them easier to check. The bedroom one is the one I neglected to check as it's a little harder to get to especially if there's a lot of things stored under the bed, so it's getting the Stage8 setup. Actually, if it weren't for cleaning up after the rat problem, I would have continued using it until it completely destroyed itself. So, "Every curse has a blessing and every blessing has a curse".

And, THANK YOU @Richpatty and @redbaron for the Stage8 info.

 

[Richpatty]

Glad to help. I know @Neal asked about installation, but it is really pretty straightforward.

1) I started by inching out the slide in question a bit to take any tension off the motor.
2) I then removed and replaced ONE screw at a time with the special screws from Stage8.
3) You will have to be a bit forgiving with the torque of each one...as the heads need to be in specific positions to accept the locking bar. I "torqued" each one to the approx. correct amount and then advanced or backed off to align the heads.
4) Each end of the bar has different "teeth". You put the end with more teeth on first on the furthest end and then move the second bolt to mate up to the bar. It take a little finesse.

5) Once the bar is in place you slide the clips over the bolt head. They are a bit tight, so you may want to use a metal tool to help push it on... The clips are mounted correctly when they spin freely.

I hope this helps. It is not that bad. I had to do all slides since the Ventana has the motors on the FWS as well.

@redbaron - Let me know if I have missed or misstated anything.

Rich

 

[redbaron]

@Richpatty the only thing you forgot is how to find that dang clip when it Flys away instead of sliding into place.

About 20% of my time was spent searching for the sprung spring clip.

 

[Chargerman]

The crows foot that is needed is 11/2” and the torque spec is 135lbs. You wont have an issue removing the motor. Once you loosen the trans torque bushings you can slide them on the shaft. Make sure the shaft if very clean before reinstalling the bushing. I use fine sand paper and sand along the shaft instead of around it to help provide some additional grip.

 

[Rustymayes]

Would be nice if Newmar provided the Stage 8 kits as a service bulletin upgrade to avoid this common problem. Funny how these big corporations think. Cheaper to pay a few warranty claims for the first year and wash thier hands of the issue and charge full freight to repair a failure after the warranty period. Instead I would think a high quality coach company would want to do what would be reasonable to ensure trouble free operation for the owner to ensure future brand loyalty! I would rather have received a stage 8 bolt kit as a thank you for buying a Dutch Star rather than two free jackets that they got the size wrong anyway!

 

[Neal]

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[lostinfla]

Would be nice if Newmar provided the Stage 8 kits as a service bulletin upgrade to avoid this common problem. Funny how these big corporations think. Cheaper to pay a few warranty claims for the first year and wash thier hands of the issue and charge full freight to repair a failure after the warranty period. Instead I would think a high quality coach company would want to do what would be reasonable to ensure trouble free operation for the owner to ensure future brand loyalty! I would rather have received a stage 8 bolt kit as a thank you for buying a Dutch Star rather than two free jackets that they got the size wrong anyway!

Yeah but, ... I'm sure a package of 3 on a coach would increase the price by at least $1000.00

 

[lostinfla]

@Richpatty the only thing you forgot is how to find that dang clip when it Flys away instead of sliding into place.

About 20% of my time was spent searching for the sprung spring clip.

When I was doing mechanical work in another life, we used to call them "damn it" clips. Every time you try to install one, they seem to fly away causing their name to escape your mouth.

 

[BGMAC]

Ever considered safety wire? Used all over on aircraft. Buy bolts with the holes.
Being the material is cast, there is a good possibility of over torquing. I also see what looks like additional mounting holes in the casting. You might want to use those as well to spread the load if you could.

 

[Roadglide117]

Looking at mine, I'm guessing it disconnects at the two bushings either side of the gear box, but it would need to have enough room to slide and have the coupling on the left in the picture clear the bracket. How does that happen when it's also in line with the other end of the shaft? Looks to me like it's captured between the two output shafts, and I don't see them moving. Also, does anyone know the torque and (I'm assuming crows foot adapter) size?View attachment 16224

Yes I have take apart. Those large 1 1/2" bolts need to be loosened up to take apart. And if like mine they were tuff to break loose. Pipe wrench to hold the bar and long open end to break loose the nut. If i can remember it torques to125lbs. loosening those are also what you do when your motor goes out to push the slide in manually. I think the motor bolts torque to 75lbs. Newmar service can tell. Good luck

 

[lostinfla]

Motor mounting bolt torque for 5/16 bolt (half inch head) is 19 fp per Newmar

 

[Webz]

Checked mine as I do every year and as with every year, the bolts were a quarter to half turn loose. I installed the nord-lock lock washers a couple years ago. Didn't make much if any difference.

 

[Gizmo]

I did a search on Amazon for "Newmar Slide Motors" and got several hits. Is the one you need. It's only 350 dollars I say only because I seem people quote a lot more from Newmar.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MBR8KFL/?tag=rvf01-20

 

[lostinfla]

I did a search on Amazon for "Newmar Slide Motors" and got several hits. Is the one you need. It's only 350 dollars I say only because I seem people quote a lot more from Newmar.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MBR8KFL/?tag=rvf01-20

That looks the same, but the part number has an "A" before the last 3 numbers and the one I need according to Newmar has an "E". I haven't had much time searching the difference yet, but I'm checking tonight. If it would work, it's about a third the price from Newmar. Thanks!