FYI Starlink and the ethernet adapter

[Neal]

Jim....As long as the routers are assigned different IP address ranges there should be no issues with them running side by side. It is possible that you could get channel interference issues from the WiFi side on both units, but Ubiquity allows you to either let the router self manage channel usage, or you can manually manage the channels used for both 2.4 and 5ghz to avoid any interference issues. I don't believe at this time there is a way of a way to change channel settings on the Starlink router, mostly due to Starlinks desire to keep it simple for the folks that aren't technology savvy in those areas. A quick scan with a smart phone app of the channels in use by Starlink will tell you which channels to stay away from for peak results.

In my setup Pepwave scans every morning (once per day) and figures out channels. When I tried out Ubiquity not long ago at home it had nice control over all of that as well. Fortunately Wi-Fi is not that strong so campgrounds shouldn't be too bad but closely parked rallies may be a concern. I've been to some rallies where they raised this concern. Apartments can't be great for this but this is why Wi-Fi expansion continues (6, 6E, etc.).

Interesting @redbaron as I figured the dishy needed their router for account control, dish alignment, etc. Anything that does not work by removing the white router from the setup? Any feature loss? stow, unstow, etc.? From what I've read the router is a power hog. Not sure how a PoE injector compares, I have one, I may try it, but that could solve power concerns for boondockers.

 

[Jim]

My square dish plugs into a poe Injector, and then into my pepwave. I don't use the wifi modem device at all.

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Did you modify the power line that comes default with Starlink?

 

[Jim]

If your router uses DHCP for connected devices, as Pepwave does (unless configured otherwise) the Starlink router will get assigned an IP address and connect just fine. I assume your Ubiquity router also has DHCP setup and should work the same. The IP addresses Starlink uses is a bit odd. even more odd is the gateway. I certainly would like to control the network Starlink uses and the IP address for the connection but I found out it's just best to let it do it via DHCP off of the Pepwave.

This is my WAN config (Starlink port):

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I was not aware the Starlink IP address could be changed? Until today, everything I've read says the Starlink IP can not be changed.

 

[Neal]

Like @Jim said, I think there's more to this, you must have put an ethernet connector on the end of one of the cables? Details please.

 

[Neal]

I was not aware the Starlink IP address could be changed?

I don't think it can which is why I leave it on DHCP. The Pepwave handshakes with the Starlink router as you can see in my screenshot.

 

[Jim]

I don't think it can which is why I leave it on DHCP. The Pepwave handshakes with the Starlink router as you can see in my screenshot.

Got it!

 

[Neal]

My square dish plugs into a poe Injector, and then into my pepwave. I don't use the wifi modem device at all.

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So you put an ethernet plug on the end of your dishy cable it seems. Wish some 3rd party would sell those, not something I want to do right now without a spare cable at least. Sounds like a future project...

 

[Scotttkd2]

Jim....you are correct, as I mentioned above Starlink has not unlocked the change IP address feature yet, probably in the future though. You would have no need to limit radio power at your park, but for those that find themselves in a crowded environment, that is another plus of using an external router that can turn the radio power down so as to reduce channel interference like most will experience at a crowded rally. There is a substantial Fakebook community on Starlink mobile and Starlink hacks that go into detail on the replacing the POE from the router and doing away with the Starlink router hardware completely. I believe RedBaron would have other quality links to the necessary details as well.

 

[lemondrop9344]

But regardless of whether you decide to run them together or not, the point I was trying to make is, you will have to go through the initial setup again to enable the bypassed modem. You can bypass the Starlink router via the app, but you can not reinitialize it without performing the initial setup again.

Your point was well made, appreciated & informative.
I dislike using cellular phones for anything other than conversing. My eyes are old & my fingers are big. Having to go through the initial setup again with the cellular phone app is a 'turn off' unless I can see a distinct advantage in doing so.
I have a tendency to be a little impatient at times... that factors in to how I do things. So far, if I have what appears to be an unobstructed view to the NW, I set up the DISHY on the tripod and it just seems to work very will with WiFi as WAN to the Peplink.
It's been my experience that the Peplink device does a very efficient job of managing multiple WAN sources in Priority 1.
Not trying to be negative as all the posts have been very informative.
I'm new to this & want to look at some of the more advanced capabilities & diagnostics that require the use of the phone app.......... as much as I dread it.

 

[redbaron]

So you put an ethernet plug on the end of your dishy cable it seems. Wish some 3rd party would sell those, not something I want to do right now without a spare cable at least. Sounds like a future project...

Yes..just cut the end off and wire an ethernet. It is just a shielded cat6 cable with proprietary end.

THe POE is different than standard POE, the pairs are opposite. The device I am running allows me to choose which pairs get power, so nothing special, just wire everything 568B.

I have the surge protected version shown above installed at my campsite in Montana. The coach has the same one in it, without a surge/ground wire for when I am camping elsewhere.

I installed a pass thru for my pressure washer, and use that hole to get the cable outside. I have 150ft of starlink cable to place the dish anywhere I need to.

 

[Jim]

You would have no need to limit radio power at your park, but for those that find themselves in a crowded environment, that is another plus of using an external router that can turn the radio power down so as to reduce channel interference like most will experience at a crowded rally.

In most situations, that is 100% correct. But aside from the visitors at the park, I have a rental cabin on the property too, and I don't love them enough to provide free internet.

And then there is the possibility that Starlink may someday have a data cap. And if/when that happens, Internet may become a perk that has to be purchased or provided on a site by site basis. So being able to control access and bandwidth is something that I'm planning ahead for.

 

[Scotttkd2]

Even if your not planning on charging for it, a good password system is a must. The Ubiquity has some really good management tools available that can keep folks from misusing the service, and give you some control if it does happen.

 

[Jim]

THe POE is different than standard POE, the pairs are opposite. The device I am running allows me to choose which pairs get power, so nothing special, just wire everything 568B.

I hate to ask this, but from a noob position, what happens if I wire it backwards?

• It just doesn't work?
• It will never work again?

 

[redbaron]

I hate to ask this, but from a noob position, what happens if I wire it backwards?

• It just doesn't work?
• It will never work again?

I don't know the answer.....never tried that!