2022 Newmar London Aire 4551 - RedBaron Build

[FLSteve]

@redbaron ... any encouraging news today on your build date??

FLSteve

 

[redbaron]

None.

I have decided that I am going to do factory delivery if the build date slips past December

 

[Chargerman]

Hope it makes in time for a NIRVC delivery as it would be great to hear of an in-depth delivery from them

 

[redbaron]

Hope it makes in time for a NIRVC delivery as it would be great to hear of an in-depth delivery from them

I have full faith in NIRVC to handle a delivery, and all issues that may be discovered from the build.

I have no faith in their ability to handle a coach that has been driving in Salt treated roads. Newmar has an advisory on how to handle this, which includes a full under carriage wash and treatment with an anti corrosive material. Then all bay doors must be opened and cleaned, including all latching mechanism. The engine must then be washed thoroughly, getting into all areas of the belt pulleys and attachment and then treated with anti corrosive.

The wheels must be removed to be cleaned properly, and the generator slides must be cleaned and treated.

Finally, the paint must be washed with special attention to the seams where the chrome is wrapped around the bay doors. Multiple washes are required using different soaps for each stage appropriate to decontamination of the paint and removal of all corrosive materials.

This all must be done within 24 hours of initial contact.

I asked NIRVCs scheduler about the wash procedure they follow for winter delivery and was told they do not have an undercarriage wash system. They will only do a normal wash, no different than they do for summer delivery.

This is most likely due to the fact that all of their dealerships are in areas that rarely see salt treatment and they just are not used to dealing with this.

By doing the factory delivery I can avoid the treated roads and not have to worry about this. If the roads are bad enough then I will either wait, or make arrangements for proper cleaning of the under carriage on the route, and do a full detail once I arrive home.

 

[FLSteve]

I have full faith in NIRVC to handle a delivery, and all issues that may be discovered from the build.

I have no faith in their ability to handle a coach that has been driving in Salt treated roads. Newmar has an advisory on how to handle this, which includes a full under carriage wash and treatment with an anti corrosive material. Then all bay doors must be opened and cleaned, including all latching mechanism. The engine must then be washed thoroughly, getting into all areas of the belt pulleys and attachment and then treated with anti corrosive.

The wheels must be removed to be cleaned properly, and the generator slides must be cleaned and treated.

Finally, the paint must be washed with special attention to the seams where the chrome is wrapped around the bay doors. Multiple washes are required using different soaps for each stage appropriate to decontamination of the paint and removal of all corrosive materials.

This all must be done within 24 hours of initial contact.

I asked NIRVCs scheduler about the wash procedure they follow for winter delivery and was told they do not have an undercarriage wash system. They will only do a normal wash, no different than they do for summer delivery.

This is most likely due to the fact that all of their dealerships are in areas that rarely see salt treatment and they just are not used to dealing with this.

By doing the factory delivery I can avoid the treated roads and not have to worry about this. If the roads are bad enough then I will either wait, or make arrangements for proper cleaning of the under carriage on the route, and do a full detail once I arrive home.

@redbaron ... I was thinking this might be the reason. Can you post a link to the Newmar advisory on how to handle this. I need to follow up on this as well.

FLSteve

 

[redbaron]

These vaguely mention the process. There was a service school presentation that was much more detailed, but I am having trouble finding it right now.

 

[FloridaSon]

Crap; something else to worry about with a December/January (maybe) delivery!

 

[Neal]

So is this something any RVer is supposed to do when RVing on snowy roads? Can't always know what they are treating roads with. I've used salt away but your outline sure seems extensive for winter RVing.

 

[FloridaSon]

Salt away worked great when I was boating. Will have to look under the coach when if it arrives.

 

[redbaron]

So is this something any RVer is supposed to do when RVing on snowy roads? Can't always know what they are treating roads with. I've used salt away but your outline sure seems extensive for winter RVing.

Yes, every single time.

Rvs are not protected like automobiles are. They have open square tubing that allows corrosive materials to get in, they bays are not sealed allowing the latch mechanism to be exposed. The engine accessories get an abnormal amount of exposure due to the location at the rear, as does the radiator.

The worst time to drive is when the snow is melting on contact, allowing the chemical or salts to spray up.

There is a thread by PDR John in 2014 detailing his damage in a 3 month period of driving. His business required he drive in these conditions. The corrective action was extreme, and required an elevated work area to access. He then started treating the coach with an oil treatment at the beginning of each season, which worked well..

My situation will allow for avoidance and delay to prevent traveling in these conditions

 

[FloridaSon]

2012 related thread

New coach delivered in winter conditions - iRV2 Forums

I have a newmar dutch star on order and expect it to be delivered in February. My dealer is in Texas and as you know Newmar is in Indiana. I am concerned that their might be salt roads driven on along

www.irv2.com

 

[redbaron]

2012 related thread

New coach delivered in winter conditions - iRV2 Forums

I have a newmar dutch star on order and expect it to be delivered in February. My dealer is in Texas and as you know Newmar is in Indiana. I am concerned that their might be salt roads driven on along

www.irv2.com

Yup....same worry I had back with my 2013 coach. Learned a lot from that delivery. The procedures I outlined prevented any corrosion.

 

[FloridaSon]

Thanks for describing preventative action . Regards

 

[sheridany]

This triggered a thought for me as I plan to spend two months in Florida in January and February. It might be wise to wash the undercarriage to prevent corrosion from salt air since we will be near the ocean at one stop. I really liked this tool that someone posted in a thread.

Undercarriage Cleaner for Pressure Washer, Under Carriage Power Washer Attachment with 45 Degree Angled Wand, 4 High Sprayer, 1/4 Quick Connect and Swivel Caster Wheel, Underbody Pressure for Car Wash https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0854557S6/?tag=rvf01-20

 

[FLSteve]

@redbaron ... read the 3rd paragraph in the following post. I guess I need to find out if NIRVC Atlanta has a coach washing procedure for winter delivery ... as I will be after you it appears due to the 12.5 kw generator delay.

FLSteve

RV One vs. NIRVC - Page 2 - iRV2 Forums

Run as fast and far as you can from RVZero. I have never dealt with a more morally bankrupt company in my life.

www.irv2.com

 

[redbaron]

@redbaron ... read the 3rd paragraph in the following post. I guess I need to find out if NIRVC Atlanta has a coach washing procedure for winter delivery ... as I will be after you it appears due to the 12.5 kw generator delay.

FLSteve

RV One vs. NIRVC - Page 2 - iRV2 Forums

Run as fast and far as you can from RVZero. I have never dealt with a more morally bankrupt company in my life.

www.irv2.com

I doubt they do, but it may not be an issue if your much later. My coach is expected to exit production at the peak of winter mix potential. By getting a factory delivery, I am delaying 6 weeks and should be in ideal weather.

I would assume that all NIRVC service facilities follow the same script, as this is part of their training for consistency. So pay attention to your run #.

 

[Soniccruzer]

Deal is Signed. Deal is Done. Waiting for Newmar to respond to my specials.

Here is the summary of my order:

London Aire 4551
Custom Paint
Glazed Maple Matte Cabinets
All electric
Dishwasher
Extra Monitor
Rear Camera Prep for Stacker
Euro Booth
Sleep Number Bed
LED under ODS slides
Stainless Trim
Kitchen Window


Now for the specials:

• Flooring: KG22-102 laid in KG style ILO Std
• Backsplash: DS22-280 backsplash ILO Std in kitchen
• Backsplash: DS22-280 backsplash ILO Std in mid bath
  
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• Shower Floor: LA22-511 floor tile ILO Std
• Ceiling: LA22-531 Leather “B” on ceiling ILO Std
• Cab Seats: LA22-531 Fabric “A” on front seat piping ILO Std (seats all one color)
• Equal Depth Cabinets over sofa and euro booth
• No Nail head on furniture
• No Nail head on bedroom headboard
• Master Bathroom Medicine cabinet – adjustable shelving ILO fixed (both shelves)
• DS 4369 Dresser in Master Bedroom ILO Std
• Add 2 adjustable shelves in both sides of Dresser in master bedroom and keep hanging rack
• Add LED lighting in bedroom wardrobe cabinets so lit when open
• Std size passenger seat ILO wide seat in cab area
• Solid door into bedroom ILO of reeded glass
• Vented egress window in bedroom
  
  ELECTRIC
• Add 110 Volt with USB in master closet to the right of the shoe shelf half way down
• Add 110 V with USB Med Cabinet in rear bathroom (std in 1 so just adding the other side)
• Add 110V with USB behind drivers seat (if can’t be done with USB then just a regular 110V)
• Add 110V with USB the the left side of valance by dining room window
• Add 110V in electrical bay on the left side if looking at it
• Add 110V (NON INVERTED) in Bay 2 door side to share with freezer bay circuit
• Add 110V Freezer Bay dual outlet ILO single outlet
• Add 110V non inverted outlet in kitchen under microwave towards cabinet side (opposite power leg/phase of microwave)
• Add 12V in Driver OH Cabinet (non ignition controlled)
• Conduit from driver overhead cabinet to roof
• Conduit from driver overhead cabinet to media cabinet
• Conduit from electrical bay to half bath electrical cabinet
• Conduit from half bath electrical cabinet to roof
• Add half tray slider in Bay 3 on the door side
  
  APPLIANCES
• GE Advantium Microwave ILO Std
• Vent microwave to the exterior

Did they approve the vented dresser window over standard one. I know you asked for 4369 dresser layout.

 

[redbaron]

Did they approve the vented dresser window over standard one. I know you asked for 4369 dresser layout.

That's a good question! I have no idea which window I am getting. Didn't even ask.

 

[redbaron]

The 2022 year started out with my coach entering Building 7 on 1/3/2022. Construction is well underway. Natalie was kind enough to send me some photos of the progress so far.

 

[redbaron]