Border checkpoints to consider in trip planning

[Kevin D Pem]

You could always try a 4th amendment lawsuit. Might be interesting.

As some people know! J.A.G. will be the way forward!

 

[sanda]

One more thing!!!
They want to get in my rig they better get a warrant!!!! Just saying they are required to follow the law of the land, or their criminals!!!

Law enforcement can inspect my rig anytime. They already are doing an impossible job so I won't add to their problems. Texas accepts my states ccp so no issues there.

 

[sanda]

They are not set up on borders. They are completely within the US and on major routes. Your papers citizen......

I drove through many closed inland border checks the last 2 winters. They were too busy babysitting the illegals at other locations. For the last several months many of our sky Marshall's have been reassigned to the border. I think of that everytime I have to get on a plane.

 

[Kevin D Pem]

Law enforcement can inspect my rig anytime. They already are doing an impossible job so I won't add to their problems. Texas accepts my states ccp so no issues there.

Ccp? Is that in China communist party??? Not familiar with any other ccp!

 

[Texas Clodhopper]

CCP = Concealed Carry Permit.

Nothing communistic about that.

 

[offroader09]

Crossing an international border vs state lines are two completely different animals. You can be searched crossing a international border. You can refuse a search for a state to state border. Yes I believe law enforcement has a job to do but in no way are they there to be your friend. If asked to search your vehicle then you are already a suspect. Once you give consent they can dismantle/damage your vehicle and you have no recourse to recoup the damages.

 

[Kevin D Pem]

Crossing an international border vs state lines are two completely different animals. You can be searched crossing a international border. You can refuse a search for a state to state border. Yes I believe law enforcement has a job to do but in no way are they there to be your friend. If asked to search your vehicle then you are already a suspect. Once you give consent they can dismantle/damage your vehicle and you have no recourse to recoup the damages.

@offroader09 thank you for pointing out just one more way people are willing to forfeit their rights!

A constitutional lawyer, or sheriff could enforce 4 violations of constitutionally guaranteed rights, just in this one post. Not including two precieved broken laws that did not break constitutional law!!!

I believe people need a legal (constitutional) education!!! Before it's to late for our children!!!

 

[Neal]

I'm building a new deep end to the RVF pool as this thread has gone right into the deep end again. Chill people. The OP was making fellow RVers aware of checkpoints. I personally don't care about them as I have nothing to hide or fear of them. I've been through them, they are of no concern to me. Now can we not go into level 10 diagnostics on threads like this?

 

[sheridany]

 

[Texas Clodhopper]

Now thats funny!

 

[Rich W.]

I guess on this one we just have to agree to disagree. My views are probably influenced by years in municipal law enforcement and training with multiple state and federal agencies. I’m partial to folks doing the job but thats probably a result of my personal experiences.

 

[Jim]

I’m pretty sure they would take one look at me and say “Oh yeah, that’s Jim. He’s got enough sh&t going on in his life without us bothering him.”

 

[Underboss]

I remember being on an rv trip and we were going to drive across the Hoover Dam. This was probably right around 9/11, but I just cannot remember but had to be before they closed it. There was a checkpoint and they asked if we had guns, explosives whatever, and asked if they could come aboard and do a search. Yes, come aboard, open whatever you want. I will always allow a search as these men and women risk their lives to protect us, why not make their job easier.

 

[Neal]

I’m pretty sure they would take one look at me and say “Oh yeah, that’s Jim. He’s got enough sh&t going on in his life without us bothering him.”

Well, no one else drives a John Deere through a checkpoint, so yeah...easy identity.

 

[sheridany]

He’s probably willing to dig a hole for them at the checkpoint

 

[LGB! Dip stick]

We drove through the Las Cruces check point last spring. He just waved us through.

We were pulling our TT at 11:00 at night to Tucson and ran across this checkpoint. He never asked if we had anything in the trailer he should know about, and just asked us where we were going. We could have had 75 illegals packed in there and he could have cared less.

 

[offroader09]

@offroader09 thank you for pointing out just one more way people are willing to forfeit their rights!

A constitutional lawyer, or sheriff could enforce 4 violations of constitutionally guaranteed rights, just in this one post. Not including two precieved broken laws that did not break constitutional law!!!

I believe people need a legal (constitutional) education!!! Before it's to late for our children!!!

you are welcome

 

[Rich W.]

We were pulling our TT at 11:00 at night to Tucson and ran across this checkpoint. He never asked if we had anything in the trailer he should know about, and just asked us where we were going. We could have had 75 illegals packed in there and he could have cared less.

They already knew whether anyone was in your trailer or not. They have very sophisticated and powerful thermal scanners (and probably other technologies) you drive past at the check points.

 

[DKRITTER]

Agents may search any person, the inside of any vehicle, and all passenger belongings. Agents do not need a warrant, any suspicion of wrongdoing, or consent to do any of these things. CBP's own policy requires that searches be “conducted in a manner that is safe, secure, humane, dignified and professional.”

KNOW YOUR RIGHTS WITH BORDER PATROL​

ACLU of Arizona
https://www.acluaz.org › files › field_documents

PDF

 

[DKRITTER]

I was born and raised in El Paso.

I have gone through the check points spoken about many times and have never had a single issue. Especially those check points are looking for anything and everything. They are looking for explosives, nuclear devises, radioactive material and on and on.
Especially today it is very easy to smuggle anything into the US. These folks are one of the first points to catch only God knows what being smuggled into the US.

As a kid my family very regularly went to Juarez to shop, have lunch and so on. My dad was very specific every time we came back across we declared everything cigarettes, booze, food, clothes... When asked about our citizenship every time we said American. Being a smart ass would be a really bad idea then.

Those check points are there to protect you.