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I agree that the black and white stripes makes it a different flag. I would be upset by a flag that had the blue line across a traditional us flag. I thing it's entirely appropriate.
I like seeing all the flags in parks. It's on my list. I will be flying the Honor and Remember flag second.
 
I guess the point is that everyone would not agree or like each and every flag choice or combination of flags another camper may display.

A site neighbor, who I socialize with daily has an American flag flying and now a KC NFL flag under it. I personally feel many NFL players have directly disrespected our flag over the past few years. I do not like to see an American flag anywhere near an NFL team flag. However I would never mention this fact to him and it is his right to display that combination. If the park owner came to him and wanted his flag taken down I would support him anyway I could.
 
I do not like to see an American flag anywhere near an NFL team flag.

While I don't fly flags as it's just more to carry and setup and knowing me I'd be driving down the road with the flag pole still up! But I honestly don't agree with this statement of associating someone proud of their team with how the over entitled NFLers that disrespect their country (flag). If I was to fly flags I would proudly fly the American flag and a NFL Team flag as that's simply representing my and only my interest and pride and does not represent the morons which you allude to. On that note, I wish those morons were required to serve 4 years in the military for their disrespect and then return to the NFL after which obviously would be unlikely. Heck, if I represented my college flag someone may have a problem with that with all the nonsense of statues and history going on (I went to VMI) and can't believe that nonsense. If someone wants a statue to come down they should first be subjected to a written test to see what they know of the history of that statue!
 
Not a flag, but in keeping with our dedication to law enforcement, my wife gave me this for the Grim Jeeper. (The Grim Jeeper is my Jeep. But you probably knew that, right?)

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FL-Joe, Thank You for your service, and Thank You for standing your ground on the flag. If you want to live with more than 6 Keep America Great flags, come to Arizona(y)
 
Neal, since 1970 I was a huge NFL fan. About 4 years ago that all changed. This last year I watched a couple of games again but it will never be the same for me. If someone wants to fly their NFL flag under their USA flag then it is their right. I would never ask them to take it down or even object to it.

Hawkeye, we have considered Arizona many times. A huge draw actually would be that my Cubs do their spring training out there.
 
GO CUBS GO!!!!!
 
Neal, since 1970 I was a huge NFL fan. About 4 years ago that all changed.

I know, it's a tough situation and this situation is broader than the NFL as this thread alludes. Very sad indeed. Good thing we have RV's and strive to disconnect and be more connected with the outdoors.
 
Joe, most campgrounds I’ve stayed in do in fact prohibit firearms. I think they do that from a liability/insurance standpoint. And of course, I comply. ?
I would never, ever even think of having a gun in a park that had a rule prohibiting them.....🙄...At least not in plain sight!

Our favorite campground prohibits firearms and the manager, also the owner's daughter, knows I carry when I travel. Her only comment was to take it off before I get out of the RV.
 
Be mindful of flag etiquette. It falls under Federal Law.

The Blue Line flag should be flown below the US flag. Never above or to the side. The other flag is expressing personal opinion or belief, which is covered in the 1st Amendment, but with limitations on intent. If it should offend someone, since the campground is a private facility, the owner/manager may make the decision regarding the display of such or asked to have it removed, based on complaints of their customers. Their US dollar is just as good but no better, than your US dollar.

I was told in one place that I can't fly my Confederate Battle Flag below my US flag. I associate it with pride in my Southern heritage, States rights, and historical commemoration of the Civil War. {We can't deny it didn't occur.} While opponents associate it with the glorification of the Civil War, racism, slavery, segregation, white supremacy, and intimidation of African Americans. As a piece-loving citizen, I did remove it for the remainder of our stay. Issue resolved.

In conclusion, perhaps one should find a location more conducive to your personal taste and beliefs that coincide with like others.
 
Want to relate an incident that happened to us recently. It was unexpected and I still have a hard time believing it happened. I don't want to create a political debate by sharing this experience.

We are in a SW Florida RV resort and have been since the first of December. We are booked until April 1st. Since our arrival I have had my Uncommon-USA flag pole up with an American Blue Line flag on top and a second flag on the bottom. The second flag is a "make America great" President Trump flag (red, white, blue).

Last week the owner of the park, and her assistant, came to my door and told me I had to take my second flag down. When I asked why she said someone had "complained" and she did not want to start having problems so it was just easier to have everyone take their secondary flags down. At the time there were probably 6 or 7 sites out of 300+ that were flying such secondary flags. I told her this did not make sense because I had been displaying these flags for about 45 days with no problems. She insisted the secondary flag had to come down.

I told her I would not remove the flag just because someone complained. She became upset and informed me that either I take the flag down or she would evict me from the park. I again told her I would not take the flag down. Then I asked both of them if they knew what the blue line American flag stood for that I was displaying over the President Trump flag. Neither one of them had a clue what the blue line flag represented. I told them it was to honor Police Officers. I further told them that I served my country in Viet Nam then returned home to start a 34 year career as a police officer. I told them that my service, and my blue line flag gave me the right to fly the second flag under the first and no one was going to make me take it down. I asked her if she planned on providing me a refund on my deposit and she said she would. My neighbor (and buddy) who had the same flag displayed had walked over and he also said he would not take his flag down.

The resort owner told us she was a Trump supporter but was only trying to "keep the peace". There was additional conversation about someone complaining that I won't get into here. She finally admitted that she had just walked into the office and her manager had informed her of the complaint and situation with the flags. She said they could stay up for now and she would go back and talk to "some people" and give us a final decision soon.

About 30 minutes later she returned to my site and said the flags could remain. Since this incident last week between 6 and 8 additional sites are now displaying similar secondary flags.

There are a couple Florida statutes that could come into play if this would have played out. I understand that private campgrounds have the right to establish rules, however I felt this was overstepping. I guess it just makes me wonder what could be next from a campground, rules forbidding firearm possession? I am relieved that this campground owner took a minute and made the correct decision.
Me I would have asked her for a copy of the rules and make my stand accordingly!
 
We don't allow flags of a political nature to be flown at Deer Springs simply because I don't have the time to babysit someone who is such a pansy that they are offended by such things.

We fly two flags here from the day we open to the last day of Autumn. If either of them offends you, Deer Springs is not the park for you.

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Since this post began (2020) we moved from that SW Florida campground. They ended up creating new rules restricting the flying of flags only to U.S. or Canadian for the upcoming camping season.

We moved our winter spot 80 miles north because we found a place that was a lot nicer and a lot cheaper and have been here every since. We did not move because the old resort created additional flag rules. The resort we are in had rules against political flags so you don't see any to start with.

I agree with ManlyMan and Sanda when they said "judge people by the flags they fly as to whether or not I consider them to be stupid" With gas and diesel almost 100% more I haven't observed a Biden/Harris bumper sticker in a gas station or truck stop for several months!
 

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