Fogged window (aft of entry door)

[Neal]

@Neemer - I see you deleted your post about your fogged window. Looks like I just got one

I'm headed to Newmar but wonder if go for a replacement or find a repair option? Suggestions?

 

[Neemer]

I contacted Newmar to have it added to my work order (headed there a week or so after you). Their reply was they would add it at no cost as a one-time gesture of goodwill.

There’s a place a little north of Tampa that does a good job of repairing them too by all accounts. https://suncoastdesigners.com/

 

[Neal]

Yeah, I’m hoping to head to Florida for winter but new house batteries may preclude that. Sometimes just getting it done is best. We’ll see when the estimate arrives. Guessing $1500. It’s just plastic and is already on the verge of melting.

 

[Neal]

There’s a place a little north of Tampa that does a good job of repairing them too by all accounts. https://suncoastdesigners.com/

Thank you for the link, this may be an option, the fogging is clearing rapidly in the sun, have to monitor it to see if it needs attention now vs. later.

 

[Richpatty]

Yeah, I’m hoping to head to Florida for winter but new house batteries may preclude that. Sometimes just getting it done is best. We’ll see when the estimate arrives. Guessing $1500. It’s just plastic and is already on the verge of melting.

Don't you have an appt on 11/15 in DC for Rettrobands?

 

[Neal]

Don't you have an appt on 11/15 in DC for Rettrobands?

Yes! Heading to Newmar Hoots in Hilton Head and @GlampDaddy has connections so I have a site at a train station that will rotate me pointed North so I head the right way when I leave - to Newmar for service starting Nov 6th. Then I go from Newmar to NIRVC "Washington, DC" and then back home to recuperate from RV repairs.

 

[Texas Clodhopper]

With your spending habits changing to new tires, retrobands, batteries, fogged windows, and summer loop pump issues, Amazon stock may take a nosedive next week.

 

[Neal]

I just ate one of Elli's cookies for lunch, groceries are impacted. Disgusting!

 

[Texas Clodhopper]

Poor Elli.

 

[MikeyG]

I'm having the same issue with the same window plus the long skinny one about the drivers window. The only guy I found so far that would do the repair is Suncoast Design. They won't guarantee the glass won't break when they pull the window apart. Its another cost for the new glass and 2-4 weeks to get the new glass if needed. Newmar wants about the same money for a new window plus installation. I'm going to wait until I can't stand the fogging and take the hit on new windows. PM me if you want more detail.

 

[J&JD]

I just ate one of Elli's cookies for lunch, groceries are impacted. Disgusting!

So now Elli’s taking a hit. How low can you go?

 

[Just George]

@Neal FWIW I had Suncoast Designers repair a couple windows on my Ventana about 3 years ago. Have since sold the coach but the workmanship was fine. They have some sites with electric hookups. They had a online cost estimator that was pretty close to actual in my case. So based on my experience from some time ago I would recommend. If you are heading to Florida Darren Thomas Glass in Sebring would be another option. I have no experience with them so cannot offer an opinion. They replace the double pain with laminated glass so no chance of fogging in the future but perhaps there is some loss of insulating properties.

 

[Neal]

It looks like I have a second window fogging, I've seen this one before then called off the alert as it appeared it just needed to be cleaned. I'll clean it again but I think this window is shot. This is the lower opening windows of the dinette large window. I have a hunch Newmar can't replace just one of the smaller ones. I'll reach out to the above referenced contact and see what they have to offer for a fix as I'm hoping to head south for the winter anyway.

 

[MikeyG]

Neal:
I was told by Newmar CS that the operable windows are covered by the recall but the fixed windows are not. My small 1/2 bath vent was replaced at no charge and I installed it in about an hour. The vents can be replaced without replacing the whole window.

 

[Neal]

Neal:
I was told by Newmar CS that the operable windows are covered by the recall but the fixed windows are not. My small 1/2 bath vent was replaced at no charge and I installed it in about an hour. The vents can be replaced without replacing the whole window.

Thank you. I wonder if 2017's are covered under the recall?

 

[Neal]

I wrote in to Newmar's service estimates on Oct 20th and had not heard anything back regarding my fogged windows which was odd. This morning I went to my group leader and inquired with him and things immediately got rolling so I got estimates for repair. The window aft of the entry was in stock and about 500-600 to install, it was also the worst, so that is now replaced. The dinette window will need a complete replacement at some point as not only is the vent window going bad but also now the forward area of the main window, although as with both it has to be the perfect weather conditions to fog, 95% of the time it won't be an issue. If I go to Florida this winter I may see about the suggested option but Newmar's quote for the large dinette window is approx $1600 which I'm fine with, it's a big window. But again, not in stock and not critical so next time I come to Newmar, if not fixed by 3rd party prior, I'll get it taken care of.

Ohh, side note. Duncan did my last windshield replacement in Elkhart and I had a droopy wiper arm like @Neemer so I asked my tech to retorque them (70 ft-lbs). He said they were loose, obviously Duncan did not torque them properly which is a two torque process separated by 30 minutes (tech today said an hour). Maybe they did and this is a recurring maintenance check maybe every other year or annually to hit your wiper arms with a torque wrench??

 

[Neemer]

@Neal , did he just retorque or also reposition that wiper? Newmar has me scheduled to replace both wipers for about $450. I’m not completely clear on whether or not they can be repositioned.

 

[J&JD]

I wrote in to Newmar's service estimates on Oct 20th and had not heard anything back regarding my fogged windows which was odd. This morning I went to my group leader and inquired with him and things immediately got rolling so I got estimates for repair. The window aft of the entry was in stock and about 500-600 to install, it was also the worst, so that is now replaced. The dinette window will need a complete replacement at some point as not only is the vent window going bad but also now the forward area of the main window, although as with both it has to be the perfect weather conditions to fog, 95% of the time it won't be an issue. If I go to Florida this winter I may see about the suggested option but Newmar's quote for the large dinette window is approx $1600 which I'm fine with, it's a big window. But again, not in stock and not critical so next time I come to Newmar, if not fixed by 3rd party prior, I'll get it taken care of.

Ohh, side note. Duncan did my last windshield replacement in Elkhart and I had a droopy wiper arm like @Neemer so I asked my tech to retorque them (70 ft-lbs). He said they were loose, obviously Duncan did not torque them properly which is a two torque process separated by 30 minutes (tech today said an hour). Maybe they did and this is a recurring maintenance check maybe every other year or annually to hit your wiper arms with a torque wrench??

I’ve been retorque mine every 6 months or so and they always need a bit of tightening.

 

[Rich W.]

I’ve been retorque mine every 6 months or so and they always need a bit of tightening.

Its a tapered soft aluminum hole going on a tapered and splined grade 8 post, so its just smush fit (technical term) and it makes sense that they would loosen up over time, although I haven't torqued mine in a couple years.

Edit: Just re-torqued mine and they were a bit loose.

 

[Rich W.]

@Neal , did he just retorque or also reposition that wiper? Newmar has me scheduled to replace both wipers for about $450. I’m not completely clear on whether or not they can be repositioned.

My feeling (and experience) is that they can be re-used but being a safety item, Newmar probably requires replacement. Last time I checked the arms were around $130 but its been a couple years.