Fogged window (aft of entry door)

[Neal]

I wrote in to Newmar's service estimates on Oct 20th and had not heard anything back regarding my fogged windows which was odd. This morning I went to my group leader and inquired with him and things immediately got rolling so I got estimates for repair. The window aft of the entry was in stock and about 500-600 to install, it was also the worst, so that is now replaced. The dinette window will need a complete replacement at some point as not only is the vent window going bad but also now the forward area of the main window, although as with both it has to be the perfect weather conditions to fog, 95% of the time it won't be an issue. If I go to Florida this winter I may see about the suggested option but Newmar's quote for the large dinette window is approx $1600 which I'm fine with, it's a big window. But again, not in stock and not critical so next time I come to Newmar, if not fixed by 3rd party prior, I'll get it taken care of.

Ohh, side note. Duncan did my last windshield replacement in Elkhart and I had a droopy wiper arm like @Neemer so I asked my tech to retorque them (70 ft-lbs). He said they were loose, obviously Duncan did not torque them properly which is a two torque process separated by 30 minutes (tech today said an hour). Maybe they did and this is a recurring maintenance check maybe every other year or annually to hit your wiper arms with a torque wrench??

 

[Neemer]

@Neal , did he just retorque or also reposition that wiper? Newmar has me scheduled to replace both wipers for about $450. I’m not completely clear on whether or not they can be repositioned.

 

[J&JD]

I wrote in to Newmar's service estimates on Oct 20th and had not heard anything back regarding my fogged windows which was odd. This morning I went to my group leader and inquired with him and things immediately got rolling so I got estimates for repair. The window aft of the entry was in stock and about 500-600 to install, it was also the worst, so that is now replaced. The dinette window will need a complete replacement at some point as not only is the vent window going bad but also now the forward area of the main window, although as with both it has to be the perfect weather conditions to fog, 95% of the time it won't be an issue. If I go to Florida this winter I may see about the suggested option but Newmar's quote for the large dinette window is approx $1600 which I'm fine with, it's a big window. But again, not in stock and not critical so next time I come to Newmar, if not fixed by 3rd party prior, I'll get it taken care of.

Ohh, side note. Duncan did my last windshield replacement in Elkhart and I had a droopy wiper arm like @Neemer so I asked my tech to retorque them (70 ft-lbs). He said they were loose, obviously Duncan did not torque them properly which is a two torque process separated by 30 minutes (tech today said an hour). Maybe they did and this is a recurring maintenance check maybe every other year or annually to hit your wiper arms with a torque wrench??

I’ve been retorque mine every 6 months or so and they always need a bit of tightening.

 

[Rich W.]

I’ve been retorque mine every 6 months or so and they always need a bit of tightening.

Its a tapered soft aluminum hole going on a tapered and splined grade 8 post, so its just smush fit (technical term) and it makes sense that they would loosen up over time, although I haven't torqued mine in a couple years.

Edit: Just re-torqued mine and they were a bit loose.

 

[Rich W.]

@Neal , did he just retorque or also reposition that wiper? Newmar has me scheduled to replace both wipers for about $450. I’m not completely clear on whether or not they can be repositioned.

My feeling (and experience) is that they can be re-used but being a safety item, Newmar probably requires replacement. Last time I checked the arms were around $130 but its been a couple years.

 

[stang37]

My suggestion if you're going to reposition a wiper arm while removed take a stiff wire brush and remove any residue material inside the splines. This will allow the splines to make new groves otherwise it will be a slick surface.

 

[Neal]

@Neal , did he just retorque or also reposition that wiper? Newmar has me scheduled to replace both wipers for about $450. I’m not completely clear on whether or not they can be repositioned.

He said he would not remove/reposition them but would re-torque them. I would do whatever you need to do yourself, I see no reason to be paying for it to be done or replaced. If you want to remove and reposition then go for it. Check torque every period of time you feel comfortable with.

 

[Texas Clodhopper]

Speaking of torque, I was going to check my slide motor bolts but I can't find my torque cheat sheet.

 

[Roadglide117]

@Neemer - I see you deleted your post about your fogged window. Looks like I just got one

I'm headed to Newmar but wonder if go for a replacement or find a repair option? Suggestions?

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Depending where your at...those windows can be taken out seperated and cleaned. $200 a window in Fla. I had 3 cleaned a couple weeks ago. A friend had every window in their DS done. Its the hard seals that fail from window company. New soft seals a flexible, you'll never have that fog look again.

 

[Roadglide117]

Thank you for the link, this may be an option, the fogging is clearing rapidly in the sun, have to monitor it to see if it needs attention now vs. later.

RV Glass Specialty from Lakeland will come to you to clean the fog out. I'm going to get the butyl tape and try it myself. Take out and separate the glass panes. Butyl tape stay soft, never fog again.

 

[Roadglide117]

I'm having the same issue with the same window plus the long skinny one about the drivers window. The only guy I found so far that would do the repair is Suncoast Design. They won't guarantee the glass won't break when they pull the window apart. Its another cost for the new glass and 2-4 weeks to get the new glass if needed. Newmar wants about the same money for a new window plus installation. I'm going to wait until I can't stand the fogging and take the hit on new windows. PM me if you want more detail.

If your in FL or S Carolina RV Glass Masters can do that repair. I seen them change a windshield and clean fogged windows. Did great job. On site service 863-777-0753
Another RV Specialty Glass they changed my windshield and several fogged windows.
863-812-4354 Lakeland FL.
Chances are you buy a new window, you'll have fogging in 5-7 yrs. The seals they use are a hard rubber that separates after time, window twisting.