CA strikes again with CARB ACT

[Rollin Ollen]

First thing to consider, well the only thing to consider, Is! How do our activities effect the world environment. For example! PG&E can build a generation plant just outside of Bullhead AZ, and avoid regulatory problems. However that doesn't reduce pollution/poisoning our collective environment. What it does is hide what is being done by thinning the vail so to speak.

Even if you don't live in LA the problem is yours. The same way shifting manufacturing to places like China, or other places that don't have the same controls, only serve to produce more environmental issues, even if your personal space seems more palatable.

No this is a problem that is collectively shared, and all should be willing to share in the cost to fix it.

Yep!! Here in Alberta Canada our Govt is mandating better performance of our power generating plants. We have moved from coat to natural gas but that, apparently, is still not clean enough! But, sadly, on top of the existing coal mines, a new one is being opened and a few more are in the works! The purpose.......to supply China!! It has also been proven that it is impossible for some of our headwaters to NOT be contaminated by said coal mining! I shake my head.

 

[redbaron]

 

[Sand-dog]

Good try Rich but it IS political. Most of what the current leadership in CA does is either illegal or unethical. But for now they have a long leash as the voters in this state have elected to live under these conditions. It defies all logic...what many experts will tell you, is that an RV carrying the amount to electrical power to push them down the road will weigh so much, the roads will be destroyed beyond the current condition (which is not good). The voting majority in CA have "LEFT" common sense behind and this beautiful state is being hijacked. Sorry for the rant Neil, and I understand if you banish me, but truth is truth so help me GOD. Blessings

I personally would not want to sit on a load of lithium batteries going down the road. Thank God, my vehicles are registered in Montana. I don’t have to deal with this liberal point of no return.

 

[fishslayer]

Our gas is 2.07 a gal, we drill for and refine oil and gas and our air isnt brown...we dont have bad air alerts or have to stay indoors..We dont have brown or black outs..go figure

 

[redbaron]

This was never about the environment.

This was never a single party, administration, or individual.

The core of the "climate debate" is all about greed and profits for those that sell the alternatives. History has repeated itself many times with various products, trends, etc that solve a problem created by those selling the solution.

There is such a thing as pollution, and there are things we can fix as a society but most of those things that we can fix are not what are being addressed.

For the time, it appears that arbitrary enforcement is not being sought, but I can confirm that waivers are not being issued for commercial products meant to remove and or roll back emissions or to delete systems.

Individuals will not be prosecuted (at this time) but without a green light for commercial offerings, the choices are limited.

 

[Neemer]

It will all be reversed in three years.

 

[Holdmybeer]

I don't own an EV, but I think in urban areas like the DFW here they make a lot of sense. I was by a Target today and there were 6 or 8 EV's charging out at the stations. They may be lowering demand for fossil fuels which may be contributing to lower prices at the pump for we neanderthals who still drive ICE vehicles. $1.90 in Plano today, win-win.

 

[fishslayer]

You know they still have to generate the electricity to charge those evs..ask Texas how well solar worked in a blizzard

 

[Holdmybeer]

You know they still have to generate the electricity to charge those evs..ask Texas how well solar worked in a blizzard

Solar and wind generation in Texas have largely contributed to grid security. Yeah, lets not take advantage of free wind and solar.