MOD Added Banjo quick-couplers to the Sani-Con hose today!

[Neal]

Thanks @TJ&LadyDi - wasn't aware of making this decision. I also noticed you're not protecting your hose from the pin hole leaks these seem to be susceptible to.

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

Thanks @TJ&LadyDi - wasn't aware of making this decision. I also noticed you're not protecting your hose from the pin hole leaks these seem to be susceptible to.

I have the flexible sheathing on hand, but haven't yet gotten around to installing it. Thus far, I have not seen any hose scuffing or other potential leak indicators. I have been VERY careful in how I handle the hose and watch it carefully for movement when pumping. There is very little movement of the hose when I activate the Sani-Con pump.

Maybe the Turbo 700 operates differently enough from the model in the Ventana/Dutch Star that the hose leak issue has been resolved.

TJ

 

[Neal]

Maybe the Turbo 700 operates differently enough from the model in the Ventana/Dutch Star that the hose leak issue has been resolved.

Careful is good but I don't think the pump has anything to do with it. I've seen this even in flexible garden hoses. You drag it over gravel once by accident in the wrong place and wrong stone and you have a hole. I don't think these are cheap to replace either. Word of caution...

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

Careful is good but I don't think the pump has anything to do with it. I've seen this even in flexible garden hoses. You drag it over gravel once by accident in the wrong place and wrong stone and you have a hole. I don't think these are cheap to replace either. Word of caution...

We bought a replacement Sani-Con hose via Amazon for $71; not throw-away cheap, but not horribly expensive either.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076FYD6JS/?tag=rvf01-20

With the Banjo fittings installed, it would be a quick and easy changeout, if necessary.

I need to contact Thetford and see about getting one of the covered hoses they provide to that other motorhome manufacturer.

TJ

 

[Neal]

Here is what I have on mine sealed on the ends with rescue tape:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016ZZU95Y/?tag=rvf01-20

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AEBKYPG/?tag=rvf01-20

 

[NWIP]

Now, @Neal, you will be faced with deciding whether to put the female couplers on the inboard or outboard end. Conventional plumbing wisdom is that liquid should flow from male to female fittings, but I didn't do it that way. My thought process is that the outboard end of the hose is the most likely to get dinged up from being dropped, etc. The female fitting has the protection of the outer housing around it to keep that from happening. If the male end gets dinged, it may not seal properly.

It will be interesting to see what you decide.

TJ

@TJ&LadyDi

I didn’t give it that much thought but I like your thinking because that’s how mine ended up?

 

[BuckyII]

Now, @Neal, you will be faced with deciding whether to put the female couplers on the inboard or outboard end. Conventional plumbing wisdom is that liquid should flow from male to female fittings, but I didn't do it that way. My thought process is that the outboard end of the hose is the most likely to get dinged up from being dropped, etc. The female fitting has the protection of the outer housing around it to keep that from happening. If the male end gets dinged, it may not seal properly.

Jim, interesting thinking...you must be an engineer. I made a conscious decision to do the other way, but can't recreate the thought process...it will be interesting to see what @Neal decides.

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

Jim, interesting thinking...you must be an engineer.

Naw...I just tend to over-think things.

TJ

 

[Neal]

Got most of my parts in. For anyone ordering this stuff you're also going to need hose clamps. For those that have done this let me know if this will work:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CMR6Z3T/?tag=rvf01-20

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

Pretty much any stainless steel hose clamps should work. I used these on my 1-1/2" ID Sani-Con hose install.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I7TANE4/?tag=rvf01-20

One tip on any hose clamps you use; trim them to size so there are no tag ends sticking out to cut hoses, hands, etc. The clamps I used had about 3/4" of band sticking out when properly tightened.

I did a preliminary fit, noted the number of excess thread slots (6) sticking out and then cut the excess off with tin snips. I dressed up the sharp corners and edges of the cut on a grinding wheel (a file would also work). It took an extra few minutes, but I don't have to worry about anything being nicked or cut by a protruding tag end.

TJ

 

[NWIP]

I ordered some the same ones to restock after doing this project, they very slow with delivery. Ordered Sunday and haven’t even shipped yet, Thursday. So if you want them in rush I would look for another source.

 

[Neal]

On the topic of male vs. female connectors and where I think the design is going to come down to your wet bay setup. For example I added a second wet bay hole for my sanicon so I can very easily get my sewer connector in/out of the wet bay as I'm not in conflict with the sanicon unit itself at the plumbing connection. If you are one that has to feed your sanicon hose in a narrow path such as getting it below plumbing then I suggest the male end on the end opposite your sanicon pump. In my case that is likely how I'll do it anyway to keep the flow from male to female as described above.

 

[ARD]

I love, love, love the Banjo quick couplers. Thanks to @NWIP who walked me through the process via FaceTime. Had to use right away because I couldn't reach my sewer hole in Utah. It makes life so much easier, especially of not having to put the handle through the hole in the wet bay. `

 

[Neal]

Nice job @ARD! Can you provide a link to what you're using for your sanicon hose protection? I need to order something for my extension and not sure if I'm going to use what I used on the other or what you're using. Grac'yaaas!

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

Nice job @ARD! Can you provide a link to what you're using for your sanicon hose protection? I need to order something for my extension and not sure if I'm going to use what I used on the other or what you're using. Grac'yaaas!

Following. Eskerrik Asko.

TJ

 

[ARD]

Nice job @ARD! Can you provide a link to what you're using for your sanicon hose protection? I need to order something for my extension and not sure if I'm going to use what I used on the other or what you're using. Grac'yaaas!

If I were to choose, I would get another sleeve from Thetford, but I bought this in 2018 before I knew Thetford had the sleeves. I followed @redbaron's footsteps. Here is the link:

25ft - 1.5 inch PET Expandable Braided Sleeving – Blackbred – Alex Tech Braided Cable Sleeve
by San-mart
Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075QD5QG2/?tag=rvf01-20

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

I love, love, love the Banjo quick couplers. Thanks to @NWIP who walked me through the process via FaceTime. Had to use right away because I couldn't reach my sewer hole in Utah. It makes life so much easier, especially of not having to put the handle through the hole in the wet bay. `
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Is the hose in the bottom photo the one from Thetford? As I recall, they sent you a replacement hose to replace a leaky one. Will they also just sell the sleeve material separately?

TJ

 

[ARD]

Is the hose in the bottom photo the one from Thetford? As I recall, they sent you a replacement hose to replace a leaky one. Will they also just sell the sleeve material separately?

TJ

Yes, it is. I asked for a sleeve and they sent me a hose with the sleeve. BONUS!!! No cost. The first time they sent me just the sleeve. No cost. I went through 3 hoses in a little over a year. Was not happy. I found Thetford outstanding to work with and don't understand why Newmar doesn't order the hose with the sleeve for their coaches. Give them a call.

 

[ARD]

@TJ&LadyDi FYI, if they will give you the hose with sleeve already on, take it. I got pinholes when I put my sleeve on. I thought I was really careful and oh, so proud because it was a pain in the neck to put on and then I used it. Sadly, it leaked, hence my second call to Thetford. ?

 

[TJ&LadyDi]

Thanks, Renee; I need to contact Thetford and see about at least getting a sleeve for my hose. I do have some of the PET braided sleeving on hand, but like the look of the sleeve you have on the hose Thetford has provided.

TJ