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Great question - why does it seem that tire blowouts appear to be more prevalent around RVs than other vehicle types?
Like Rich and many others here, I am very careful about checking tires every day when traveling in the RV, especially the steers. Will drop down on the ground and visually look at the inside of the steers too.

As I have read and listened to people’s stories over the years I have 2 observations:
- RV tires are not used regularly enough and that flexing motion seems to have beneficial properties to tire life
- I have not yet seen any empirical data around incidence of tire blow out on RV vs semi trucks
I agree on the tire usage thought…which I have always driven my RV at least every month for 40-50 miles, even between trips to keep everything happy…. I have been doing this since getting my first MH in 2006. Maybe that’s why I have not any issues until now….

@Neal, I agree about hearing more bad news than good news, but have heard more bad tire stories lately and it bothers me. I guess if we continue to RV, we will have to rotate out the steer tires much more frequently…. Like 3 to 5 years?

Thanks all!
Rich
 
It is my belief and practice to rotate tires at reasonable intervals to not only help wear patterns but also have them inspected for signs of problems by a knowledgeable “professional “.
 
It is my belief and practice to rotate tires at reasonable intervals to not only help wear patterns but also have them inspected for signs of problems by a knowledgeable “professional “.
I believe Gaffney at annual service pulls the tires and inspects...I go to Gaffney annually religiously. I would assume other vendors do the same. I don't believe they are rotated and I'm not sure that is a good practice on a motorhome (with tag?), open to opinions on this. Otherwise you may lose track of tire age, i.e. where are my fronts now? Steer and Drive axle wheels are different, I think steer and tag may be interchangeable.
 
To your Point Neal. Here is a discussion about why a rotation might not be necessary

 
Ordered Centramatics for all three axels as I will be having Motorhometires.com come and install either 2 (front) or 6 (all but tag) in my driveway. It will be cheaper per tire if I do 6. I will be buying Toyos.

The plan would be then to go to NIRVC Atalanta to have them put Rettrobands on the tags and have them swapped to the front. I may have the last 2 tires shipped to NIRVC if the price difference is significant.

Stay tuned….
Rich
 
OK. Order placed with Motorhometires.com for 6 Toyo tires to be installed at my home - both steer and drive tires - with 2 more being shipped to NIRVC. I have confirmed with NIRVC that they will hold them for me when I get there. I have moved up my Rettroband install from March to October when I will head down there and get the work done. I am also having them install new valve stem extenders for my inner drive tire.

Centramatics should arrive by the end of the week and the first 6 tires should be installed next week.

I will let you know how it goes.
Rich
 
It sounds like someone is sticking around :)

I have an idea for a Christmas gift for Patty. Secret....

Amazon product ASIN B007FJMAT8
So what was the cost of the Toyo's?

Where did you get the Centramatics and how much did they cost? I see you can get them on Amazon but otherwise seems you have to buy from whomever is going to install them so they get a cut on the product and the installation.
 
LOL. I think we are sticking around....but figured I need to get new tires anyway. Can't sell it like it is. We have a trip coming up to DeerSprings... We will see how we feel about it.

Total cost for 8 tires (6 installed, 2 others shipped to a different destination) was $7,652.00. The 6 tires with install is $5,622.00 of it. The balance is just 2 tires and shipping... They say the tires should be installed by late next week at the latest.

I bought the Centramics from Florida Shores Truck Center who had the same pricing as Amazon and free shipping. I got that recommendation from Dutch Star Don. Plus I like to give some business to someone else besides Amazon. :) 6 will be installed when the guy comes to install the tires...and the last two by NIRVC. Centramatics should be here by Friday or Monday.
 
Remember, we only hear the bad stories (about anything) and not the good ones. What are the real statistics? How many thousands of tires are out there (on RV's) and how many of those are experiencing a failure? Same with cars, trucks, etc. It happens, but what is the real statistical value of this event? (reaching for optimism...)
As I traveled down I-40 today in AZ, I looked for a stretch of road that tire gators had gone extinct. I am here to tell you I found more road with than without!!! So like Neal said! It ain't just RVers that loose tires.

Truckers avoid running over those gators, do you? The steel in them poke holes in tires, thus the reason they have that nickname.

Not to sound like a broken record, but!!!

The tire lining is a different compound than used on the rest of the tire, by design. Commercial trucks put more miles on in a year than most RVs see in their life cycle.

That said the lining is less permeable than the rest of the tire. When it ages the possibility increases that air can become trapped between the liner and the rest of the rubber. The biggest weak link is the reinforcement is difficult to permeate, so they separated. When air passes the liner but not the other rubber components you get a bubble. This making any sense???

Because nitrogen is larger, than oxygen, there is less chance that gasses will be trapped in the belts of the tire. Simple question? How often do you need to pull out the compressor??? Where does the air go???

These are the things I ponder in my always sleeping mind!!!
 
I bought the Centramics from Florida Shores Truck Center
When I reached out over email I was put in touch with them too but for whatever reason they were not responsive and I could not get an answer on how to order them direct to me. I recently replied again and the VP/Marketing guy for Centramatics reached out to me directly, gave me the part numbers, how to get them, etc. My thought has been to put them on AFTER FL Gaffney installs the tires so they are forced to balance the tires properly and not rely on the Centramatics. After this time I will go to a T/A or somewhere and have them installed, if needed, but most likely.
 
@Richpatty,
I am also having them install new valve stem extenders for my inner drive tire.
Check out duallyvalves, they are single piece steel valve stems for the inners that extend all the way out so you can air up more easily. I had those installed after the valve extender fiasco with FL and have had no issues since then.
 
@Richpatty,

Check out duallyvalves, they are single piece steel valve stems for the inners that extend all the way out so you can air up more easily. I had those installed after the valve extender fiasco with FL and have had no issues since then.
Thanks! Will take a look.
 
Looking at the specs for the 2024 DSDP it appears that the Steers are a larger size than the drives. Steers. This should be interesting to manage over their lifetime. 315/80R steers vs 2?? Something on the drives.
 
Yea….one nice thing about the Ventanas… all tires one size.
 
Looking at the specs for the 2024 DSDP it appears that the Steers are a larger size than the drives. Steers. This should be interesting to manage over their lifetime. 315/80R steers vs 2?? Something on the drives.
Forced compliance!!! Steers, and drive, are built differently, stops the universal tire thing.
I would hate that!!!
 

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